
02-21-2011, 09:32 AM
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Ive never met a full blooded native american in my entire life, most people that claim to be are usually mixed with whites or hispanic, etc
are there any surviving full blooded natives left or are they all mixed or partial race now?
they seem like they are almost extinct?

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02-21-2011, 09:34 AM
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Location: bold new city of the south
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Originally Posted by mr bolo
Ive never met a full blooded native american in my entire life, most people that claim to be are usually mixed with whites or hispanic, etc
are there any surviving full blooded natives left or are they all mixed or partial race now?
they seem like they are almost extinct?
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There aren't many, but then, there aren't many 'pure' anything, anymore.
I am 1/8 Cherokee and proud of it.
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02-21-2011, 10:23 AM
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I suspect the OP's question would have to be researched in tribal records on the Reservations. Even then one is relying upon the honesty of the individual applying for tribal membership as to the percentage of purity.
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02-21-2011, 10:27 AM
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Location: North Carolina
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one of my best friends growing up was pure. his adopted parents were mostly white and when they went to tribal meetings very few of the tribe members looked native.
there are so few left...............so sad
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02-21-2011, 10:29 AM
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Location: bold new city of the south
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Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal
I suspect the OP's question would have to be researched in tribal records on the Reservations. Even then one is relying upon the honesty of the individual applying for tribal membership as to the percentage of purity.
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That is correct. I cannot 'prove' mine, but I know it to be true.
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02-21-2011, 11:15 AM
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Location: Colorado Springs, CO
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It very much depends on the Nation. Western Nations have a much higher number of FBIs (Full-Blooded Indians) than Eastern tribes. My mom is a full-blood; I am a half-blood. My birth father is white. That being said...
Full-blooded is often a relative term in as much that sometimes full-bloods are full-bloods of their own tribe. Sometimes full-bloods may be a mix of different nations. Half-Comanche and half-Kiowa, for instance, is a very common mix among my people. Even then, because records were only kept during the respective tribes reservation and post-reservation periods (in the case of the Oklahoma Nations), it is hard to tell just how full-blooded an individual FBI actually is.
My people (Comanche) were raiders. They raided other tribes, sometimes whites and especially Mexicans. My grandfather used to joke that all good Comanches are part-Mexican as the people liked to raid Mexican villages in Texas, Mexico and New Mexico for horses as they felt that the Mexican horses were better than Anglo horses. It was not unknown for the warriors to take Mexican women as captives during these horse raids and then make these women their wives. Since those days are long gone, it is obvious that the mixing due to raids and adoption is quite diluted. It is possible that I am 1/256th Mexican, but I can't prove it.
In the modern era, there has been more mixing due to a number of reasons. Starting in the late 1940s and through the first part of the 1970s, the US government in an attempt to "terminate" nations had programs such as the adoption of Indian children to white families and the forced relocation of Indian people from the rez's or tribal lands to major US cities.
Additionally, the increased mobility of Indian people these days with young people going off to college, leaving for more opportunities or military service has caused some of this as well. I did 20 years in the US Air Force. Because I was stationed in areas with very few, if any, Indian people let alone just Comanches and since I'm not a big fan of long distance relationships, I dated non-Indians for the most part. During my single years I only dated one other Indian and she was a Lakota girl. She was in the Air Force as well. Both my ex-wife and my current wife are white. It's just the way things happen sometimes.
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02-21-2011, 01:07 PM
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Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Come to New Mexico. There are a lot of people who consider themselves Hispanic who are actually (more-or-less) full blooded indigenous, much less full tribal members.
That said, there is intermarriage, too, but plenty of 'full-blooded', as you put it, Native Americans. Many in Mexico, Canada, the northern Plains states and Alaska, as well. For evidence, visit some public gatherings which take place across the country, the 'Gathering of Nations' Pow-Wow in Albuquerque being the biggest and most diverse.
Another myth is that all Natives back east are really White (or Black) people playing 'Indian' with only some remote ancestor to lend credence to their claim of indigenous status. While there was (is) more intermarriage back east, there are still many, many Natives back there who are instantly identifiable as Native even if they are wearing Carhartts and a baseball cap (or a business suit) sitting in a diner in upstate New York, Maine, Quebec, etc.
While European settlement devastated the Native population, to claim 'extinction' of the various Native genotypes is a much harder claim to make than the extinction of some (very many, actually) of the 'cultures' of pre-Columbian North America.
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02-21-2011, 01:22 PM
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Location: DC
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Many/Most "Mexicans" are predominantly Native American. Only about 10% of the population of Mexico is Spanish.
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02-21-2011, 02:05 PM
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Location: Owasso, OK
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Originally Posted by mr bolo
Ive never met a full blooded native american in my entire life, most people that claim to be are usually mixed with whites or hispanic, etc
are there any surviving full blooded natives left or are they all mixed or partial race now?
they seem like they are almost extinct?
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I have a friend who is full-blood Creek, and I recently took care of a patient in the hospital who was full-blood Cherokee. I also grew up with several full-blood Osage.
I think individuals who live in highly populated NA areas have a better chance of meeting other NA's.
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02-21-2011, 02:06 PM
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Location: Owasso, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lifelongMOgal
I suspect the OP's question would have to be researched in tribal records on the Reservations. Even then one is relying upon the honesty of the individual applying for tribal membership as to the percentage of purity.
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I don't know about ALL tribes, but I know for mine you've got to have several generations of documentation. They don't just hand you a CDIB card based on your word.
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