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Ah-hem! There are many of us who have NO "mongoloid" traits, etc. Long story short there is no simple black-and-white, either-or answer.
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Broad cheekbones, squarish jaw. Looks Mongoloid to me. Mongoloid is a broad definition, it can cover looks that range from East Asian to Southeast Asian to even South American.
Once you start looking at humanity from the aspect of genetics you realize how ridiculous it is to divide us up into arbitrary groups like that rather than viewing us as a spectrum of slight variations that started from a single source and worked its way outward.
Once you start looking at humanity from the aspect of genetics you realize how ridiculous it is to divide us up into arbitrary groups like that rather than viewing us as a spectrum of slight variations that started from a single source and worked its way outward.
Excellent point. My people never walk around saying, "We are mongoloid, just look at our cheek bones!" @
We are *Kui-gwu. (That's *Kiowa to you)
Like fullback, I also tend to see similarity between south american indigenous people and north american.
I also love to hear anthro's arguing and categorizing humans into neat little brackets. IMHO all archeological evidence is based on people scratching in the dirt and then scratching their heads and coming up with profound theories like "broad cheekbones, square jaws, must be mongoloid."
A scholar visiting my tribe in the 1850s or so (in what is now Oklahoma) noted that during his stay, there were Kiowa's visiting tribes in Canada and another party went as far south as Durango (where they saw monkeys), this shows just how much any group of people can send offshoots into distant lands. It should be no different throughout humankind's history.
It's like asking are all caucasian/european's vikings or neanderthals?
Broad cheekbones, squarish jaw. Looks Mongoloid to me. Mongoloid is a broad definition, it can cover looks that range from East Asian to Southeast Asian to even South American.
Kind a racist sort of classification without scientific foundation. Native Americans are primarily from Y chromosome haplogroups C and Q. C haplogroup members were coastal fishermen. The most prevalent haplogroup among Native Americans is Q, which is also found in North Asia, Russia, and Scandinavia populations. North Asians are genetically a very diverse group with at least 7 major major haplogroup represented. Mongolians generally have no Q haplogroup membership.
Let's not try to revive discredited 19th century notions of race on a genealogical board.
Kind a racist sort of classification without scientific foundation. Native Americans are primarily from Y chromosome haplogroups C and Q. C haplogroup members were coastal fishermen. The most prevalent haplogroup among Native Americans is Q, which is also found in North Asia, Russia, and Scandinavia populations. North Asians are genetically a very diverse group with at least 7 major major haplogroup represented. Mongolians generally have no Q haplogroup membership.
Let's not try to revive discredited 19th century notions of race on a genealogical board.
And let's not forget the teeth. Anyone remember reading the "shovel-shaped incisors" research? God, this brings up some memories of anthro-l.
How the word mongoloid was first used and in what context versus how it is used in layman's terms a hundred years later would be a good point.
Haven't we all read somewhere the phrase Down Syndrome baby born with "mongoloid" features.
And let's not forget the teeth. Anyone remember reading the "shovel-shaped incisors" research? God, this brings up some memories of anthro-l.
How the word mongoloid was first used and in what context versus how it is used in layman's terms a hundred years later would be a good point.
Haven't we all read somewhere the phrase Down Syndrome baby born with "mongoloid" features.
That's what I was thinking! "Mongoloid" means Down's, or Trisomy 21, to me. Either way- the word is outdated and insulting. It's the equivalent of saying "Negro" or "Colored" IMHO.
And, like a previous poster pointed out, why do people have this intrisic need to pigeon-hole everyone?
So that's where all our "powers" come from.....aaayyyee.
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IMHO all archeological evidence is based on people scratching in the dirt and then scratching their heads and coming up with profound theories like "broad cheekbones, square jaws, must be mongoloid." 
