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Old 02-05-2012, 09:43 PM
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Location: Western Massachusetts
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Why is "white" in quotation marks?
I actually can't remember what my reason was.

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This thread STINKS of racism.
I find it interesting and non-racist.

 
Old 02-06-2012, 12:30 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Originally Posted by sheena12 View Post
Why is "white" in quotation marks?

This thread STINKS of racism.

So much of the Holocaust would not have happened if we did not have quotas on Eastern and Southern Europeans. But we did.

Oh and that Holocaust? It's like...NOT UP FOR DEBATE. I have met personally 20 or more people who were victims of it.

And a thread like this? It makes me think that Americans haven't changed much since then....
No one is saying mixing is a bad thing...

and yeah, this is totally related to holocaust denial...

Yeah I've got a white hood in my closet, want me to some to your church and do some cross-burning?
 
Old 02-06-2012, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Originally Posted by sheena12 View Post
Why is "white" in quotation marks?

This thread STINKS of racism.

So much of the Holocaust would not have happened if we did not have quotas on Eastern and Southern Europeans. But we did.

Oh and that Holocaust? It's like...NOT UP FOR DEBATE. I have met personally 20 or more people who were victims of it.

And a thread like this? It makes me think that Americans haven't changed much since then....
You do know it's an Australian, not an American who's the OP, don't you?

Quotas, which were established in 1924 in the US, had that act not passed would not have stopped the Holocaust. Maybe the numbers wouldn't have been as high, but it wouldn't have stopped. And what it did was reduce the numbers of immigrants from Eastern and Southern Europe, but increase the numbers for Northwestern Europe, which included Germany.
 
Old 02-06-2012, 04:07 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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You do know it's an Australian, not an American who's the OP, don't you?

Quotas, which were established in 1924 in the US, had that act not passed would not have stopped the Holocaust. Maybe the numbers wouldn't have been as high, but it wouldn't have stopped. And what it did was reduce the numbers of immigrants from Eastern and Southern Europe, but increase the numbers for Northwestern Europe, which included Germany.
No, it's certainly not all all the Jews in Europe would have left for America.

Australia had the White Australia Policy until the early 1970s...it was only after than that refugees from Vietnam flooded here.
 
Old 02-06-2012, 04:20 AM
 
Location: Harrisonburg, VA
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Everyone in the world is a mutt
 
Old 02-06-2012, 09:06 AM
 
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People who lived in a small, rural area for many generations did tend to marry into the same families. But, it's not necessarily a Southern trait. I spend most of my time working on descendencies. One of a Southern family, and two of New England families. I've found that by far, the New Englanders married in and out of the same families far more often than the Southern family did. The Boston blue-bloods are particularly guilty of it.
Sure, I agree.

The big difference is that in Boston, you have to clip out most of the population to find the "Boston Blue Bloods." It is a large metropolitan area, that's seen quite a bit of immigration over the centuries.

In the south, the "man on the street" is likely to have an ancestry similar to mine. AFAIK, some of the outer reaches of Maine and eastern Canada have quite a bit in common with both the white southerners and the old-money Boston types, descended from early colonial settlers.
 
Old 02-06-2012, 09:15 AM
 
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Yes indeed he did. Fancied himself a bit of a poet, old Bob.
Fancied himself? A bit?

Bob Dylan IS a poet. He's been considered a poet since "Blowin in the Wind" and "A Hard Rain's a-Gonna Fall".

He's been called a poet since 1963 when he blew people out of the water with the realese of "The Free Wheelin' Bob Dylan".

Sorry, don't mean to derail your thread but some things cannot be ignored.

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Old 02-06-2012, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Orlando, Florida
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I actually can't remember what my reason was.



I find it interesting and non-racist.
I don't find it racist either. I suspect all races are somewhat in mutt form by now though.

I just wish with all my heritage that someone would have left me a few bucks. Seems like my lineage managed to use all the money up before
I came into the picture.
 
Old 02-06-2012, 11:58 AM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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I've noticed this. Why is this?

Lou Reed's birth name was Rabinowitz (in this case his parents changed their names). Bob Dylan's was Zimmerman but of course they are nothing like the original names.

I am the arbiter of all things "Lou Reed" and Mr.Reed was born Louis Alan Reed to Sydney and Toby Reed.

To my knowledge Sydney Reed was born with the name "Reed" - The name could have been changed at Ellis Island.

There was an article in the late "Cream" magazine,(1970s) written by Lester Bangs that said that Lou Reed changed his own name. It wasn't true.
 
Old 02-06-2012, 03:06 PM
 
Location: USA
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That's why Malcom X dropped his last name; so he won't have the same last name as the owners of his ancestors.
His ancestors didn't have the same language either so he could have given up the entire English language and the Alphabet by the same rationale. Just saying, when do you stop
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