Most white Americans seem like 'mutts' (Eastern, Russian, Germany, trace)
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I'd say "mutt" is derogatory when referring to humans, that's just me though.
I would agree that "mutt" sounds derogatory. If anyone has seen the hateful rhetoric of White Supremacists, and their talk about "mongrel races", it sounds very similar.
Coupled with the comparison to Australia, which is a very Anglo-Saxon country, there is a racist tinge to this.
Why is being "Anglo" any better or more desirable than anything else?
I would agree that "mutt" sounds derogatory. If anyone has seen the hateful rhetoric of White Supremacists, and their talk about "mongrel races", it sounds very similar.
Coupled with the comparison to Australia, which is a very Anglo-Saxon country, there is a racist tinge to this.
Why is being "Anglo" any better or more desirable than anything else?
This discussion of Purebred > all has been discussed on CD ad nauseum..it's obviously racist.
This discussion of Purebred > all has been discussed on CD ad nauseum..it's obviously racist.
I don't see how you figure it's "racist." Racism involves hate or discrimination. No one is making a value judgement here about whether it is better to be more genetically diverse, or more "pure bred."
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I would agree that "mutt" sounds derogatory.
It doesn't sound derogatory to me. I explained what my ancestry is, and I would take no offense at being called a "mutt."
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Why is being "Anglo" any better or more desirable than anything else?
No one said it was! That's just this weird inference you keep making. It's a discussion about the racial history of Americans. Believe it or not, not all of us "white folk" are the same.
Am I complaining? I don't really thinks so, I mean I didn't mean for it to sound that way. I think I am just stating a fact. If this country does become a multi-language and multi-cultural society it will not be as strong as it has been in the past...
But it has been "multi-language and multi-cultural" in the past as well...
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...Hey, I'm democrat, I'm not one of these neocon hustlers with hate in my heart. I just think for the good of the country and the good of the new Americans learning English and becoming an American is very important.
Sure, but it is an unfair comparison to think our own glorified ancestors adapted quicker. I have had the wealth of experiencing an immigrant spouse and stepchildren, whom within a matter of a few years, have become largely indistinguishable from the native population in my area. Opinions are formed from experiences (I'm not going to tell you how you should feel, nor counter that my view is closer to the average), don't base a narrow perspective of time and events as indisputable fact.
Immigrants are going to adapt to America at their own speed, probably outside the vision of what someone else wants them too become...
That is the American way, and is what has made this country great...
It doesn't sound derogatory to me. I explained what my ancestry is, and I would take no offense at being called a "mutt." .
I like being called a "mutt" as well. (I'm half white, half Asian). And yes, I'm partially British. 1/8 British (maybe 3/16 if Irish counts). More british than most "white" people I went to school with.
And for another example of how English sounding last names are misleading, consider two Jewish Americans: Woody Allen and Vermont senator Bernie Sanders.
And for another example of how English sounding last names are misleading, consider two Jewish Americans: Woody Allen and Vermont senator Bernie Sanders.
I like being called a "mutt" as well. (I'm half white, half Asian). And yes, I'm partially British. 1/8 British (maybe 3/16 if Irish counts). More british than most "white" people I went to school with.
And for another example of how English sounding last names are misleading, consider two Jewish Americans: Woody Allen and Vermont senator Bernie Sanders.
One thing I've always found odd about English-sounding surnames in America is how there are so many people in the US with the name Johnson, apparently the second most common surname there but only tenth in the list over here in the country where the name originates. There must have been a huge amount of Anglicisation of non-English surnames in the US over the years as going by the 1990 census the top 17 surnames in America are all British ones, pretty staggering considering how long it's been since large-scale emigration from Britain to the US and how few of you have mostly British ancestry.
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