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Old 03-20-2013, 11:01 AM
 
Location: Filipinas
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Rizal is not anti Spanish or Hispanic. His friends are mixed people, Pardo de tavera was one of his closest friend who belongs to insulares group or the 1st Filipino. Pardo de Tavera brothers are part of the Ilustrados, and even his lawyer is Peninsulares and a close friend of him. He didn't stereotype all the people in Spanish era, He was against the friars, people who treated all the native born in the Philippines for inequality and to treat everyone as human being and to also respect the local born in the Philippines. He knows that Spaniards also contributed a lot for Filipino people, look at the schools of today we are still using the schools that they put namely : University of Santo Tomas, Adamson University, Letran, Ateneo de Manila, Santa Isabel College, etc. How many Filipino studied in this school. It's not only the Church that they contributed for the Filipino.


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Old 03-20-2013, 12:51 PM
 
Location: Filipinas
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^the 3 Filipino priest - GOMBURZA, ( GOmez - BURgos - ZAmora) belongs to different type of people. father Burgos is insulares (Spaniard born in the Philippines), One of the priest is Mestizo and the other is Indio. The revolution or the merged of all the revolutionarist was because of the execution of these 3 Filipino priest. Racism is the cause why the Revolution was organized that encourage our heroes to gain the Philippine Independence to form a Filipino Nation.
 
Old 03-20-2013, 02:59 PM
 
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Here's more of the hispanic culture that Pinai wants to be a part of -

How 'bout RICANS . . .


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Old 03-20-2013, 03:01 PM
 
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Pinai wants to be a latina, with a black / latino boyfriend in a gang - she wants to be like this:


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Old 03-20-2013, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Filipinas
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^whatever you say 'Ay Nako' lol ... I know who I am that I am a Filipino.
It's you who cannot understand. Because you look at the FILIPINO people as a race & not
as national.
 
Old 03-20-2013, 04:09 PM
 
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I think you're a hispanic latina wanna-be.


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Old 03-20-2013, 04:11 PM
 
Location: Filipinas
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lol whatever you said. I know my identity & my culture as a Filipino. gusto mo lang mang asar tulad ng ginagawa mo dito para mang insulto siguro naman naintindihan mo ang sinabi ko kasi sabi nga ni Rizal 'ang sinong di mag mahal sa sarili niyang wika ay masahol pa sa malansang isda ika nga niya'. Dapat nga lahat ng kapwa Pilipino ay ginagamit ang wika nila sa pakikipag usap sa kapwa Pilipino. Ito ay galing mismo sa isang Insulares na pinagmamalaki niya na isa siyang Filipino at kinakausap ako sa wikang pambansa kung tutuusin mas makabayan pa siya kesa sa ibang dating Pilipino na mga nagpalit ng nasyonalidad. Sa akin ang pagiging Pilipino ay hindi nasusukat sa kung ano ang anyo nila iyan ay nagmumula sa puso ng tunay na nag mamahal sa bayan na pinagmulan tulad na lang ng mga bayani natin na nag buwis ng buhay para sa kalayaan. para makamtam ang kalayaan na meron tayo ngayon.

Gusto mong imulat ang aking pag iisip ngunit ikaw punong puno ka ng galit paano mo masasabi na isa kang Pilipino kung di mo man lang matanggap sa sarili mo ang pinag kaugatan ng ating pagiging pag ka Pilipino. Hindi na po tayo iisang lahi, iba't ibang grupo na po tayo ng tao na pinag buklod bilang isa. kaya imulat mo yang pag iisip mo. Ikaw yata ang naliligaw. gusto mo bumalik tayo nong bago tayo naging Pilipino. Tanggap naman natin kaya nga ginagamit natin ang sarili nating mga wika at hanggang ngayon ay buhay pa rin. May parte ng pagiging Pilipino ang pilit mong di tinatanggap. Pinagmamalaki ko na isa akong tagalog, isang Pilipino at mahal ko ang bansang Pilipinas.

Saka yang pang iinsulto mo ng ibang lahi eh? walang ipinag iba sa pangungutya na ginawa ng mga masasamang prayle at ng mga peninsulares sa pakikitungo nila noong araw sa mga mamamayan na hindi nabibilang sa kanilang katayuan.

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Old 03-20-2013, 09:26 PM
 
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I think Rizal is rolling in his grave . . . because people like you (pinai) want to go back in time and pretend to be hispanic / european / spanish / latino / la raza . . .

Viva La Raza, doña pinai gangsta !!! Viva La Raza you wanna be Hispanic Vida Loca Gangsta....
 
Old 03-20-2013, 10:14 PM
 
Location: Filipinas
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kausapin mo ako sa wikang Pilipino. => Ay nako Amerikano

- Ang gusto ni Rizal ay ang mahalin natin ang kanya kanya nating salita.
Ang pag gamit ng wikang kastila ang dapat lang natin gamitin bilang opisyal na salita sa buong kapuluan, hindi ang ingles na iyong ginagamit dahil wala naman kinalaman yan sa pagiging Pilipino natin pagka't hindi naman sa panahon ng mga Amerikano ang pinag kaugatan natin para maging Pilipino. Ginamit nila ang salitang Kastila, ang mga Bayani ang gumamit nito sila mismo. Kuha mo! Kaya nga Kastila ang ginamit nila dahil hindi mag kaintindihan ang buong Pilipino sa iba't ibang lugar sa Pilipinas. Pag tagalog lang ang ginamit ni Rizal hindi siya maiintindihan ng mga Bisaya kaya sa wikang Kastila niya sinulat ang kanyang tula. Kaya marami siyang pinag aralan na iba't ibang salita sa Pilipinas para mas maiabot din niya ang inilalaman ng kanyang tula at para mailabas din niya sa mga kastila kung ano ang nangyayari.

Wala pa tayong pambansang salita noong panahon ni Rizal. Kaya ang sinasabi niya eh? mahalin natin ang kanya kanya nating salita. Kung Bisaya ka, Ilokano, Tagalog, Waray, Tausug at iba pa yun ang ibig niyang sabihin. Yan ang idineklara noong panahon ng unang republika ng Pilipinas. Kaya nga nagkaroon tayo ng kanya kanyang tugtugin hango sa ating mga salita na kung tawagin sa ingles eh? Folk Song kung hindi mo maintindihan. Tulad ng mga tugtugin ng Kundiman ng mga Tagalog, ang kantang Ati cu pung singsing ng mga Kapampangan, at Pamulinawen sa Ilokano at iba pa.

pero ang pag kakatatag ng sarili nating salita o pambansang wika marami ang tumututol na iba't ibang etniko pagka't imbes na salita na lang nila ang gagamitin nila. kakailangan pa nilang mag salita na base sa Tagalog, sigurado ako ang mga Bisaya ay galit sa mga tagalog. Kung hindi mo alam madalas kasi silang makaranas ng tukso sa tuwing magsasalita sila ng wikang tagalog o Pilipino dahil sa punto ng kanilang pananalita. Pero kailangan natin ng salita para sa ating lahat sa Pilipinas upang magkaintindihan. Ngunit ang ating pambansang salita eh nasisira na dahil nahahaluan na rin ng iba't ibang salitang banyaga. nauuso na ang Taglish imbis na tagalog lang siya.

Kaya nga yan ang idineklara nilang opisyal na salita ang Kastila noong naitatag ang kauna unahang republika ng Pilipinas nong ika-1898 noong makamit natin ang kalayaan ang komunikasyon ng buong kapuluan para mag kaintindihan at para ma-reserba natin ang ating mga kanya kanyang salita. Hindi totoo na mangmang ang mga Pilipino kaya tinuruan tayo ng ingles nong panahon ng Amerikano.

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Old 03-21-2013, 01:36 AM
 
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If this isn't the correct forum for this question, please redirect me.

The term "Hispanic" originated during the 1970s to specifically enumerate certain people of Spanish derivation (generally Mexicans, Spanish-speaking Caribbean people, and maybe it has expanded to Central Americans and South Americans given their migration to the US in recent years.

Despite Filipinos being of Spanish derivation in the Asian part of the world, I have always noticed that on forms, they are generally listed with other Asian groups but not with "Hispanics."

I have always thought of them as Asians, not Hispanics.
Do you classify yourselves as Polynesians?

How do you classify yourselves? There's a conversation going on in another chat where no Filipinos are included and I'd just like to get someone who is Filipino to comment so we can stop speculating.

Thank you!!
Pacific Islander.

Latina/Latino = from the Americas
Hispanic = Spaniard

Hispanic does not equal Latin.

Huge difference.

Asian = South Indian, Tibetan, Kyrgz, Thai, Laotian, Viet, Burmese, Cambodian (Indochine), Chinese, Korean, Japanese (East Asian), Indonesian, Malay.

Polynesians weren't dominated by conquistadors.

So, by respect, Filipinos are Pacific Islanders.
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