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Old 07-30-2012, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Union County, NC
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An interesting read:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/us...pagewanted=all
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:09 PM
 
Location: Everywhere and Nowhere
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I thought I'd be reading how his mom was descended from slave owners like a lot of the rest of us.
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Old 07-31-2012, 06:28 PM
 
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I'm no fan of Obama, but if he has ties to slavery that doesn't bother me. Probably all of us do if we look back far enough.
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Old 07-31-2012, 11:25 PM
 
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And, if you actually read all the data, it is clear Ancestry is -- once again -- skipping a few records and making assumptions.

Ancestry has one value: primary records. If the link isn't there, you don't use it. The are linking him from a person who was an indentured servant and ran and on capture was bound for life ( it doesn't even use the term "slave") next mention is a name change and a family in a second or third generation.

What some people will do to add minorities into any mix!

You cannot prove it by documentation, it isn't real.

The entire thing is just silly

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Old 07-31-2012, 11:44 PM
 
Location: Nebraska
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I believe that the line in question the Bunches, has been found to have African origins. Maybe there is a connection. Maybe there was an error in either the recording or transcription of the documents that makes it impossible.
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Old 08-01-2012, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Cushing OK
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I believe that the line in question the Bunches, has been found to have African origins. Maybe there is a connection. Maybe there was an error in either the recording or transcription of the documents that makes it impossible.
Given that the Bunches in N.Carolina were for a time listed as mulatto, and the Virginia side intermarried heavily and crossed the color line, it wouldn't be unthinkable that records might have been removed and lost at some point, especially that they became a prominant white family later.

And there were records tracing her to the Bunches, so she did have an ancestor who was african. I find it very interesting that the one Bunch came out on the dna testing as a distant cousin to Obama.

If the intent was to dissapear and take a new name and begin a new history, I'd think no records, which would have not been unusual then, would be prefereble.
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Old 08-01-2012, 08:53 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I'm no fan of Obama, but if he has ties to slavery that doesn't bother me. Probably all of us do if we look back far enough.
*shrug* My family does. A distant grandfather moved to Illinois from Tennessee, bringing a family of slaves, whom he knew would be free once they reached the state. There was a lot of back patting among his descendants for his "doing the right thing" until DNA evidence showed that at least some of the children in the slave family were his. That got the older family members twitterpated; a few people in mine said "now don't go spreading that around!"
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:07 AM
 
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Does that mean that all members from his mother's side are entitled to affirmative action?
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Old 08-01-2012, 09:08 AM
 
Location: southern california
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mankind started in africa, every person that walks the soil of america including george wallace is an african american. its one african american running against another in this election.
unfortunately the way the game is currently played much like 3rd reich, u must prove u were descendant of a slave to be a member of "the club". archie bunker wants to prove his family came over on the may flower, but the community wants to prove they came from dutch slave ships.

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Old 08-01-2012, 11:07 AM
 
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mankind started in africa, every person that walks the soil of america including george wallace is an african american. its one african american running against another in this election.
It doesn't work that way. The genesis of humanty stems from what is know today as Africa. But it wasn't know as Africa back then, it wasn't establish as anything. The continents hadn't even seperated at that point.
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