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Old 12-11-2012, 07:05 AM
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English are Germans. Welsh are British.


The English are Germans The Welsh are real Britons - YouTube
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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It's not that clear... read further into the article:

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This has received a further blow from genetic archaeology in the past 15 years, which has generally shown that, far from being Germans, the English are mostly descended from very ancient indigenous people who long pre-date even Celtic speakers.

Bryan Sykes, who helped to overturn the idea that native Europeans were displaced by Middle East farmers in the 4th millennium BC, says that only 10 per cent of men “now living in the south of England are the patrilineal descendants of Saxons or Danes… that figure rising to 15 per cent north of the Danelaw and 20 per cent in East Anglia”. East Anglia, incidentally, does have the best-run railways in England. Coincidence?

Another geneticist, Stephen Oppenheimer, has argued that 68 per cent of English DNA pre-dates the first farmers in the 4th millennium BC, and that most of our ancestors arrived from Iberia.

Now the Germans are claiming us as their own again, I’m confused. Are we Germans, or Spaniards? I suspect that, much as we like the latter, we would rather see ourselves as the former (even though this new study is unlikely to discredit Sykes’s and Oppenheimer’s claims).
In other words, different studies have yielded different results and the ones from London University have not discredited the former. If Sykes and Oppenheimer found a lower percentage of German heritage but another study found a higher percentage, it could just be due to different sampling. Sykes and Oppenheimer didn't create the DNA results from nowhere, they came from English people. It just means that some English have a higher percentage of German heritage than others, which means it's a MIX. Just like I said.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:11 PM
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The Angles came from Angeln. The Saxons came from Saxony. Both places are in Germany.
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Old 12-12-2012, 03:03 AM
 
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The Angles came from Angeln. The Saxons came from Saxony. Both places are in Germany.
Yes, I know that. What's your point? Mine is that it's been genetically proven by Sykes and Oppenheimer that the English are a mix of Anglo-Saxon AND other heritages too. Stating where the Anglo-Saxons came from does not prove otherwise.
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Old 12-12-2012, 09:16 PM
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We're all Germans! (and we have been for 1,600 years) | Mail Online
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Old 12-13-2012, 07:26 AM
 
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LOL you can post as many articles from pseudo-reputable sources as you'd like, it doesn't change the findings of Sykes' and Oppenheimer's studies.
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Old 12-13-2012, 06:13 PM
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BBC NEWS | Science/Nature | Britain 'had apartheid society'

The Anglo-Saxon Invasion: Britain Is More Germanic than It Thinks - SPIEGEL ONLINE
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Old 12-14-2012, 02:54 AM
 
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Okay, I can't keep repeating myself just because you keep posting different versions of the same thing.
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Old 12-14-2012, 10:27 PM
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Ancient Britons lose out to German blood | News | guardian.co.uk
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Old 12-15-2012, 06:53 AM
 
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LOL you really just don't get it, do you?
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