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My great great grandmother's sister Rebecca had a son William Henry. He married Minnie. William Henry & Minnie had a daughter named Beckie. William Henry & Minnie divorced. Minnie then married my great great grandmother's son David who had a son William Isaac from a previous marriage. William Isaac married Beckie. I can't figure this out. How are they related to me?
Rebecca is your 3rd great-aunt, and her son, William Henry, is your 1st cousin 3x removed. His daughter, Beckie, is your 2nd cousin 2x removed.
David is your 3rd great uncle, his son William Isaac is your 1st cousin 3x removed.
So your 1st cousin 3x removed (William Isaac) married your 2nd cousin 2x removed (Beckie).
Minnie is only related to you by marriage, and since she is the mother of Beckie but not the mother of William, it means the fact that she married two of your relatives doesn't really matter or change the relationships.
I think that the 'removed' distinction or even the degree (1st, 2nd, 3rd) cousin is necessary or useful in most social interactions. They're mainly useful for genealogical documentation and reference. My best friend in the world is my First Cousin, Once Removed (my father's 1st cousin), but I would never introduce her as anything but my "Cousin Joy". I'm very close to several of my 2nd cousins also and I just refer to them as cousins. Because of the age difference between me and my Cousin Joy, she is 16 years older than me but 11 years younger than my father (her 1st cousin), a few people have asked exactly how we're related. She lives in LA and when I visit, some of her friends have inquired about it. But she's the first to tell anyone that we're closer than she is to any of her 27 first cousins or even her own brother! That means a lot more than how closely or distantly two people are related by blood. After all, I have plenty of people I consider family that I share no blood with...and actually love them as much or more than I do most of my blood relatives!
I also have had people in my life that are like family to me. My old neighbor was like the grandfather I never had. When he was in the hospital he'd introduce me as his grandfather. My hubs gram was like my own, we were closer then she was with any of my hubs family
Rebecca is your 3rd great-aunt, and her son, William Henry, is your 1st cousin 3x removed. His daughter, Beckie, is your 2nd cousin 2x removed.
David is your 3rd great uncle, his son William Isaac is your 1st cousin 3x removed.
So your 1st cousin 3x removed (William Isaac) married your 2nd cousin 2x removed (Beckie).
Minnie is only related to you by marriage, and since she is the mother of Beckie but not the mother of William, it means the fact that she married two of your relatives doesn't really matter or change the relationships.
what comes first a great grandmother or uncle.. i have a great grandchild on the way and when she is born ..i have been told that the uncle can see the baby before me? and after grandparents
what comes first a great grandmother or uncle.. i have a great grandchild on the way and when she is born ..i have been told that the uncle can see the baby before me? and after grandparents
I think you are in the wrong forum. This is genealogy not non romantic relationships.
what comes first a great grandmother or uncle.. i have a great grandchild on the way and when she is born ..i have been told that the uncle can see the baby before me? and after grandparents
That is really an internal family decision, but if you want to get technical:
With a civil degree of relationship (this generally applies to legal matters like laws of inheritance), an uncle and a great grandmother are the same degree, they are both a degree of 3.
With a canonical degree of relationship, an uncle is a degree of 2, and a great grandmother is a degree of 3.
With DNA, an uncle will share about 25% of their DNA, and a great grandparent will share about 12.5% of their DNA.
This is assuming by "uncle" you mean the baby's uncle, not one of the parent's uncles, which would be the baby's great uncle. A great uncle is a civil degree of 4, canonical 3, DNA 12.5%.
what comes first a great grandmother or uncle.. i have a great grandchild on the way and when she is born ..i have been told that the uncle can see the baby before me? and after grandparents
what comes first a great grandmother or uncle.. i have a great grandchild on the way and when she is born ..i have been told that the uncle can see the baby before me? and after grandparents
As you have been told, this is the wrong forum for your question. There is no law about who can see a new baby. You may see the baby whenever the parents of that baby say you may, whether you are the baby's great grandmother or the baby's grandmother or the baby's uncle or the baby's mother's uncle or the baby's cousin or the people who live next door to the baby's family. Understand?
what comes first a great grandmother or uncle.. i have a great grandchild on the way and when she is born ..i have been told that the uncle can see the baby before me? and after grandparents
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