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Old 09-05-2013, 09:49 AM
 
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Hi,

I am trying to research onto my great grandmother Emma Schleeter/Schlueter married to Edward Ellies.

I looked at Emma's daughter Shirley Clara Ellies bapism book, that Emma's last name spelled Schluter (with no E in it), but, Shirley, my grandma claimed the spelling is SCHLEETER. All of those spellings are right- in different records.

Emma Schlueter/schleeter/schluter is born in June 27, 1892 in McLeod County- Penn Township, and died on November 12, 1973 in Hennepin county.

Emma's parents are Henrietta Rieve/riewe and Carl/charles Schlueter from Germany (prussia). I want to find Emma's birth record under VitalCheck, and could not find her birth certification! I tried to find Penn township, it's not there- I clicked on Glencoe, Brownton, and other cities. There are some records that Emma lived in Sumter, and it's not there on the VitaChek Order. Help?!

Is the Mcleod county had changed with the cities? I looked into the map- I see Glencoe, Hutchinson, Brownton, Sumter but not see Penn township? This is state of Minnesota (FYI)


:-/ Help?
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Old 09-05-2013, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Penn Township, McLeod County, Minnesota - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

//www.city-data.com/township/Penn-McLeod-MN.html

For the birth record, you need to contact Mcleod County. It appears records that early are not recorded with the state.

http://www.archives.com/genealogy/vi...county-mn.html

It is common to find different spellings of names in old records because spelling was not standardized the way it is now. When you search, you need to do it with all of the spellings.

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Old 09-05-2013, 03:25 PM
 
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I did not check out all the Links Suzy gave, but that far back it was not unusual for Township and County Lines to change or even disappear. Hopefully those Links will address that issue.
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:00 PM
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Some towns become part of others, or if the population dwindles enough they can disappear. But records are often kept by the county or the state, if they were kept at all. Try checking with the county courthouse for earlier years. Counties often have records before any state centralized the records. So for instance a state may have records from 1910 to the present, but a county may or may not have them before then.
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:31 PM
 
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McLeod County Minnesota History

I don't know why the OP had trouble locating Penn Township. It was and is now in McLeod County.

Map of McLeod County.

http://www.co.mcleod.mn.us/departmen...rontForWeb.pdf

Penn is at the bottom, just to the left of the legend box.
The county was settled by Germans from Pennsylvania. The town is named for William Penn.
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Old 09-06-2013, 07:54 PM
 
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Penn was and still is in McLeod County (established mid 1850s). I don't know why the OP had trouble finding it.

Map:

http://www.co.mcleod.mn.us/departmen...rontForWeb.pdf

Penn is at the bottom, just to the left of the legend box.

A 1916 plat map.

Untitled Document

Mcleod Historical Society » Research
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Old 09-06-2013, 09:39 PM
 
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Not to mention, someone born outside a major city before 1900 is unlikely to have a birth certificate. A delayed birth certificate filed after SS came into being is often the only possibility.
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Old 09-06-2013, 10:26 PM
 
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Not to mention, someone born outside a major city before 1900 is unlikely to have a birth certificate. A delayed birth certificate filed after SS came into being is often the only possibility.
Apparently MN started recording births in 1900, but counties may have records before that:

State Registrar Home - MDH

Churches and family Bibles may also have records.

Penn Town Lutheran Church - McLeod - Family History & Genealogy Message Board - Ancestry.com
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:04 AM
 
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"May have" being the operative. While it varies from locale to locale, I've found that it usually happened earlier in the cities. Not in more rural areas. The best you'll usually find there are church records.

And ... keep in mind that when they did begin registering births state-wide, it usually took quite years before there really was full coverage.
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Old 09-07-2013, 12:17 AM
 
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3 year old Emma Schluter is on the 1895 MN State Census at www.familysearch.org

You can see the actual census page at the above site.

The family is living in Penn township, McLeod, Minnesota. Ten children in the family.
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