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Old 12-07-2014, 09:08 PM
 
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About 3 years ago, on one side of my family we had the DNA test done -- sample taken from my Mother's male cousin. This was done as part of research being done into that family name, through a university.

We just paid for basic results, and learned we are in haplogroup R1b1a2, which is very interesting.

I'd like to know whether we would have to get another sample in order to have testing done that would be more in-depth, or whether facilities retain samples to run further tests on if a family wants more information.
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:11 PM
 
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Are you interested in genealogy or just deep ancestry?

Since you tested with a university you would probably get more information by testing with one of the genealogy groups. Many are having sales for Christmas.

Family Tree DNA is $89.

https://www.familytreedna.com/products.aspx

You could test with 23AndMe ($99) and/or Ancestry.com ($99) and transfer the results to Family Tree DNA.

https://store.23andme.com/en-us/cart...FTFp7AodPykAUg

DNA Tests for Ethnicity & Genealogical DNA testing at AncestryDNA

The transfer to Family Tree DNA is "free", but to unlock all the matches currently costs $39 unless you can recruit others to transfer, too. I am not sure how long that price will last, so you would need to get a sample in to the other company you choose soon.

What you did before was probably Y DNA. I am not sure if that would transfer to Family Tree DNA or not.
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Old 12-08-2014, 06:49 PM
 
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About 3 years ago, on one side of my family we had the DNA test done -- sample taken from my Mother's male cousin. This was done as part of research being done into that family name, through a university.

We just paid for basic results, and learned we are in haplogroup R1b1a2, which is very interesting.

I'd like to know whether we would have to get another sample in order to have testing done that would be more in-depth, or whether facilities retain samples to run further tests on if a family wants more information.
Without knowing anything about the university and the program they ran, we can't really say. You'd have to check with whoever ran the program at the university to see if they had anymore in depth results they could give you. They likely didn't keep the sample, but even if they did they probably can't give the sample to any other company to run more tests on. They might be able to give you the raw data of their results, which can be uploaded to other companies for more analysis. But I have no idea how the program worked or what they can give you, especially since it's not your DNA but a somewhat distant cousin - the cousin would likely need to give you permission to obtain his DNA raw data.
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Old 12-08-2014, 08:24 PM
 
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i went pretty deep, and it cost money, before you go deeper, check the forum with your last name and see what markers they was positive for, no since spending money if no last name of yours has hit on those marker. if a certain marker is common, you can skip a lot of test and save money

and no, they can use the original sample, just since money, I used my original sample seven times

i would recommend the 111 marker test, just because its not your sample put another male, the 111 would give you almost all the info you ever need
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Old 12-09-2014, 01:01 AM
 
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The last name is reasonably common, but our particular branch of the family only has our family and 2 others that show a common ancestor within last 8 generations. There is some confusion about "where" our emigrant ancestor came from. Some sources indicate he came from Germany and the other 2 families are following that line of thought. However, my Mother recalls her Grandfather as having indicated his background was Irish, and the incidence of the R1b1a2 haplogroup is quite high in Ireland and Scotland, while not referencing Germany as of much if any note. I'd like to check it out further if possible.

The male relative who provided the DNA sample has since passed away. I'll check with the university to find out if they have preserved the sample such that it would be available for further testing if the tests are paid for -- I just wondered if this was a common practice (preserving samples) or not.
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:30 AM
 
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Are you interested in genealogy or just deep ancestry?

Since you tested with a university you would probably get more information by testing with one of the genealogy groups. Many are having sales for Christmas.

Family Tree DNA is $89.

https://www.familytreedna.com/products.aspx

You could test with 23AndMe ($99) and/or Ancestry.com ($99) and transfer the results to Family Tree DNA.

https://store.23andme.com/en-us/cart...FTFp7AodPykAUg

DNA Tests for Ethnicity & Genealogical DNA testing at AncestryDNA

The transfer to Family Tree DNA is "free", but to unlock all the matches currently costs $39 unless you can recruit others to transfer, too. I am not sure how long that price will last, so you would need to get a sample in to the other company you choose soon.

What you did before was probably Y DNA. I am not sure if that would transfer to Family Tree DNA or not.
Great list of resources. I'd only add that, if anyone is considering Ancestry.com, don't buy at their standard $99.99 price. Ancestry regularly has $79.99 deals on its DNA kit and has flash sales for less than that fairly frequently also (I just bought a kit for $69.99 with free shipping, and Ancestry sometimes has a $49.99 sale as well, although this one is really rare).
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Old 12-09-2014, 05:58 PM
 
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If your mother's male cousin was tested, that does not apply to you. That represents his Y chromosome, which I assume is different from yours (if you are male). Your Y haplogroup would be that of your father, and his father, etc. If you are female, then you don't have a Y haplogroup.

"R1b1a2" is a very broad category and its the most common haplogroup in Western Europe and the US. So IMO it is not "very interesting." I also fall into that category.
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Old 12-09-2014, 06:06 PM
 
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When my DH had his tested with FTDNA back in 2002, he originally went for the 12 marker test (yeah...it was a long time ago lol!) After a while, when he wanted to expand his markers, he just paid to have his test upgraded to the 62 marker test and he did not have to submit a new sample. I'm not sure how other companies do business for situations like this.

RVcook
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Old 12-09-2014, 11:51 PM
 
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If your mother's male cousin was tested, that does not apply to you. That represents his Y chromosome, which I assume is different from yours (if you are male). Your Y haplogroup would be that of your father, and his father, etc. If you are female, then you don't have a Y haplogroup.

"R1b1a2" is a very broad category and its the most common haplogroup in Western Europe and the US. So IMO it is not "very interesting." I also fall into that category.

This was done in context of tracing my Mom's ancestry on her paternal side -- we know her ancestry on her Mother's side. Also, we know my Father's ancestry already, going pretty far back on both his paternal and maternal sides. What we know of this highly suggests that R1b1a2 would also be the paternal haplogroup there. Sure, it's a broad category and common, but I still find it interesting to see where it has come from over time.

Since we inherit genes from both parents, even though the paternal line haplogroup wouldn't be "my" haplogroup, still there is genetic inheritance in me from that line, right?
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Old 12-10-2014, 07:07 PM
 
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i am a rab1a2a1a1a8, and yes its from scotland, but before scotland there was viking attacks and other invaders like the qual, anglo saxon, even romans. Some of these are from germany which as a crow fly is not far from scotland. so your tree could be from germany passing through scotland.
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