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View Poll Results: AMERICANS: What race do you consider half black half white people?
Black 63 24.51%
Mixed race aka biracial 190 73.93%
White 4 1.56%
Voters: 257. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-06-2015, 05:30 PM
 
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You need to get beyond the idea that a person has to look black to be black

The Origin of Blond Afros in Melanesia | Science/AAAS | News

Clearly I was talking about the community in Ohio, not me. Try actually reading a post instead of kneejerking to what you think a particular person is sayiing.

 
Old 11-06-2015, 05:37 PM
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Clearly I was talking about the community in Ohio, not me. Try actually reading a post instead of kneejerking to what you think a particular person is sayiing.
that post was supposed to have been deleted as it was a response to another poster

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Old 11-06-2015, 05:45 PM
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These people aren't "black"(Sub-Saharan African). There are populations found along the equator with phenotypes traditionally thought of as black hair, skin color, shape of skull but they cluster genetically with Asian populations. These phenotypes are adaptions explained by convergent evolution.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_evolution
I guess you could say just because a person has blond hair and light skin they could no more white than a person with dark skin and curly hair.

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Old 11-06-2015, 06:12 PM
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I guess you could say just because a person has blond hair and light skin they could no more white than a person with dark skin and curly hair.

These classifications of black and white were created centuries ago when people were very ill informed.

Watch this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjk9GoQ8EvI
 
Old 11-07-2015, 10:46 AM
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These classifications of black and white were created centuries ago when people were very ill informed.

Watch this video.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjk9GoQ8EvI

Very interesting, It almost seems that as we mix with other ethnicities, the offspring "travel back in time genetically" to resemble people from Central Asia. I remember meeting two international students who had just arrived in the US. When they told me they were from Central Asia, I thought they looked like they could be from anywhere. They looked like many of the multi-ethnic kids my kids had grown up with.

I think kids who are the offspring of a black and white parent are neither Black or white anymore. They become the Synthesis of what it is like to be black and white in America.

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Old 11-07-2015, 02:43 PM
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Very interesting, It almost seems that as we mix with other ethnicities, the offspring "travel back in time genetically" to resemble people from Central Asia. I remember meeting two international students who had just arrived in the US. When they told me they were from Central Asia, I thought they looked like they could be from anywhere. They looked like many of the multi-ethnic kids my kids had grown up with.

I think kids who are the offspring of a black and white parent are neither Black or white anymore. They become the Synthesis of what it is like to be black and white in America.
I agree. My personal opinion if we had a time machine and could travel back in time 100,000+ years ago and meet the original group of hunter gatherers we all descend from I think they would most resemble the people in this photo.

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com...da98a0eb42.jpg

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Old 11-08-2015, 10:44 AM
 
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The US has always had significant populations of biracial (and triracial) people.

There is a major cultural distinction between those who have, as a group, existed as a community for centuries, as compared to individual people born out of a (historically recent) mixed race relationship.

The Creoles of Louisiana are a distinct ethnicity in and of themselves. For centuries they considered themselves neither black nor white, but a distinct people:

Welcome to Frenchcreoles.com

Creoles have no doubt about who and what they are. Of course they know the long ago history of how they came to be. But rather than focusing on being 'black' or 'French' (European), they have a vibrant, thriving heritage all their own. Neither 'black' nor 'French' even begins to describe them. They are something more than the sum of their parts: a new thing, a new culture endemic to the south central US.

Over the years, some individual Creoles have chosen to immerse themselves into traditional black or white communities and cultures. But nowadays they always have the choice to just plain know themselves as Creole, within a large and thriving Creole ethnic identity; ie, to marry Creole, to look, talk, cook, visit with, and live among people just like themselves.

On the other hand, individuals who are born here and there to recent interracial mixtures lack a cohesive new culture and identity. They must make their own way to define themselves. They might only have one parent in the home, and are brought up in the traditional culture of that parent with only second hand, media-derived concept of the other parent's traditions.

Without a history of community identity, they face challenges that people like the Creoles don't.
, even though their genetic percentages may be identical.
Just to tail onto your comment which was well stated. For some people who use the term "Creole" for race or to use a certain phenotype to ascribe Creole...Correctly defined, a Creole are people or persons who descend from the original "French" and/or "Spanish" settlers in Louisiana. People who were born outside of France in colonized Louisiana. If you do not descend from any such people, one is not Creole.

A bona fide Creole for example is Tina Beyincé (AKA Beyonce's mother). She descends from an Acadian/Cajun. She gave Beyonce her name from her father's paternal lines.

Tina's father (Beyonce's grandfather. She strongly resembles him.)


Tina's father (Beyonce's grandmother)
 
Old 11-09-2015, 06:40 AM
 
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The term creole, criollo, had-has a double meaning. First, the ancient meaning refers to offsprings of French or Spanish and later also for the "offsprings of the New World", also including animals, human being, cuisine, etc.
 
Old 11-14-2015, 09:56 PM
 
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I'm taking a racial studies class and want to gather some data but on top of that I'm extremely curious, I'm American but I'm half Afro Brazilian and half German American. When in both countries(meaning brazil and germany) and I say i'm half black half white it's usually accepted. It's a pretty common thing for people from other countries to think that Americans follow the one drop rule/don't accept people being multiracial(my dominican friends especially say this). Any who, just wanted to know if that was true or not, what race do you guys consider a "mulatto" to be.
Thanks.
You're not a mulatto because a mulatto has one parent native to Spain and one parent native to Africa.

You have one parent native to Germany, and one parent native to Africa. German/African is more life it, but not mulatto.

The Spaniards do not consider themselves Germans, and mulatto belongs to the Casta system of Spain which does not include a name for a Spaniard with a European not belonging to Spain. For example, they don't have a name for one parent native to Spain and one parent native to France, or any other part of Europe.
 
Old 11-15-2015, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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You're not a mulatto because a mulatto has one parent native to Spain and one parent native to Africa.

You have one parent native to Germany, and one parent native to Africa. German/African is more life it, but not mulatto.

The Spaniards do not consider themselves Germans, and mulatto belongs to the Casta system of Spain which does not include a name for a Spaniard with a European not belonging to Spain. For example, they don't have a name for one parent native to Spain and one parent native to France, or any other part of Europe.
You still do not understand the difference between race, ethnicity, and nationality.

A mulatto is mixed black (race) and white (race), usually meaning one black parent and one white parent.

A mulatto can live in any country. Thus he can be American, German, or Spanish, or any other country on earth. That is his nationality.

In the US, a person of mixed black and white races can identify either with the African American community (an ethnicity) or the white community (which may reflect any number of ethnicities).

President Obama is mulatto. His mother is a white American, his father a black Kenyan.

He is an American, because his mother is an American. That is his nationality.

He chooses to identify with the ethnic group we call African Americans.
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