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Old 12-09-2015, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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Originally Posted by Altair230 View Post
Yes, I agree. Since I am mostly european I am european, the majority rules.
And also most "white" americans are not 100% Europeans.
If someone in this forum believes he or she is 100% european, please submit your DNA results, because I want to see it.
My husband comes back 100% European at 23AndMe:

81.2 % British and Irish
2.4 German and French
0.6 Scandinavian
12.7 Broadly NW European
0.1 Iberian
0.5 Broadly S European
2.4 Broadly European

this fits with what I know about his genealogy. His mother's ancestors were Irish and English and mostly fairly recent immigrants. I know less about his father's side but have no reason to suspect that they were not European.

Mine is 99.7% European:

63.8% British and Irish
4.7 German and French
2.3 Scandinavian
26.8 Broadly NW European
0.6 Balkan
0.5 Broadly S European
1.0 Broadly European
0.2 Mongolian
0.1 Native American

I have most of my genealogical lines going back a couple of hundred years and cannot account for that Mongolian and Native American trace. I do not know whether it is real, just noise, or something ancient.
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Old 12-09-2015, 03:11 PM
 
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My husband comes back 100% European at 23AndMe:

81.2 % British and Irish
2.4 German and French
0.6 Scandinavian
12.7 Broadly NW European
0.1 Iberian
0.5 Broadly S European
2.4 Broadly European

this fits with what I know about his genealogy. His mother's ancestors were Irish and English and mostly fairly recent immigrants. I know less about his father's side but have no reason to suspect that they were not European.

Mine is 99.7% European:

63.8% British and Irish
4.7 German and French
2.3 Scandinavian
26.8 Broadly NW European
0.6 Balkan
0.5 Broadly S European
1.0 Broadly European
0.2 Mongolian
0.1 Native American

I have most of my genealogical lines going back a couple of hundred years and cannot account for that Mongolian and Native American trace. I do not know whether it is real, just noise, or something ancient.
You should get the "raw data" from 23andMe and re-run it at Gedmatch, sounds interesting, but you need more precision.
My older brother paid $169 at 23andMe for his Y-DNA and MT-DNA and apparently we are 100% Irish....lol
As per 23andMe our Y-DNA is: R1b1b2a1a2f*


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Old 12-09-2015, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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You should get the "raw data" from 23andMe and re-run it at Gedmatch, sounds interesting, but you need more precision.
My older brother paid $169 at 23andMe for his Y-DNA and MT-DNA and apparently we are 100% Irish....lol
As per 23andMe our Y-DNA is: R1b1b2a1a2f*

You do realize that Y-DNA and MTDNA only look at two lines, don't you?

GEDmatch finds a few more of those tiny percentages, from all over the place, depending on which scenario is chosen. Again, are they real, noise, or just ancient bits? If they are ancient, then we are all 100% African, I presume.

From the paper trail I have, I the 99.7% European is on the money.
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Old 12-09-2015, 06:02 PM
 
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You do realize that Y-DNA and MTDNA only look at two lines, don't you?
What do you mean with "two lines"?
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Old 12-09-2015, 06:43 PM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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What do you mean with "two lines"?
Y-DNA only looks at your father's father's father's ... line.

MTDNA only looks at your mother's mother's mother's ... line.

Neither tells you about all the other autosomal DNA.

I take it you do not do any genealogical research?
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Old 12-09-2015, 08:45 PM
 
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Y-DNA only looks at your father's father's father's ... line.

MTDNA only looks at your mother's mother's mother's ... line.

Neither tells you about all the other autosomal DNA.

I take it you do not do any genealogical research?
The weird thing is that my mother looks like Margaret Thatcher and my dad looks like Ernest Borgnine, we can trace his family all the way to Italy and we can trace my mother all the way to Spain.
My Y-DNA is: R1b1b2a1a2f*
My Mt-DNA is: C1

R1b1b2a1a2f* is irish and C1 is Native American.
How come my mother is Native American? her brothers (my uncles) are redheads, they look scandinavians or british.
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Old 12-09-2015, 09:09 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Yes, those traces are from Southern European, they mixed with Berbers (northern africans, which are caucasians or middle eastern)
But there's lots of people who get trace amounts in those regions even if they don't have Southern European ancestry.

Given that you don't even understand what Y-DNA and mtDNA results are from, I'm not sure you really understand DNA testings as well as you think you do.
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Old 12-13-2015, 02:00 PM
 
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W. Africa is not North Africa you have some black ancestors although the percentage is small you are more white than anything else. I mentioned Puerto Rican because I've seen those sort of results in Puerto Rican people.
Here are my results for comparison my W. Africa isn't within the last 12 generations, I'm Southern European from a small island in my case the reason the percentage doesn't match my genealogy is because it is from founder effect I'm certain I have no African ancestors within the last 400-500 years ago.

Population
South Asian -
Caucasus 10.49%
Southwest Asian 7.28%
North Amerindian + Arctic -
Siberian -
Mediterranean 26.97%
East Asian -
West African 2.49%
East European 10.46%
North Atlantic 42.32%
Nonsense! There are North Africans of Sub-Saharan ancestry, do you even know what you're talking about?
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Old 12-13-2015, 02:03 PM
 
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My husband comes back 100% European at 23AndMe:

81.2 % British and Irish
2.4 German and French
0.6 Scandinavian
12.7 Broadly NW European
0.1 Iberian
0.5 Broadly S European
2.4 Broadly European

this fits with what I know about his genealogy. His mother's ancestors were Irish and English and mostly fairly recent immigrants. I know less about his father's side but have no reason to suspect that they were not European.

Mine is 99.7% European:

63.8% British and Irish
4.7 German and French
2.3 Scandinavian
26.8 Broadly NW European
0.6 Balkan
0.5 Broadly S European
1.0 Broadly European
0.2 Mongolian
0.1 Native American

I have most of my genealogical lines going back a couple of hundred years and cannot account for that Mongolian and Native American trace. I do not know whether it is real, just noise, or something ancient.
You're still overwhelmingly White.
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Old 12-13-2015, 02:54 PM
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Nonsense! There are North Africans of Sub-Saharan ancestry, do you even know what you're talking about?
Boy your rudeness is only exceeded by your ignorance! Anyone with some basic knowledge on the subject knows that that North Africans carry sub-Saharan admixture. However the sub-Saharan component in this individuals results reflect West African(very distinct from Maghrebi) due to the Yoruba tribe being the reference population used for comparison.
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