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Old 09-23-2018, 10:21 PM
 
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Different haplogroups (which is what they measure) can have natural variances or mutations that occur within groups, and occasionally can show up in ethic groups located a great distance away, sometimes to the point where mixing would have been highly unlikely or impossible. This is found most evidently in the peculiar case of a Native American group having a similar haplogroup to Europeans (not due to recent mixing). While romantic theories of prehistoric contact are made, the actually (boring) culprit is a natural haplogroup variance.

In due time we might be able to drill into them to better figure out which group goes where, but for now these tests shouldn't be the sole means of determining ethnic ancestry.
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Old 09-24-2018, 09:22 AM
 
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Don't worry, they have a small margin of error. Sometimes is just "noise"
But I believe your results are ok.
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Old 09-24-2018, 11:13 AM
 
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Different haplogroups (which is what they measure) can have natural variances or mutations that occur within groups, and occasionally can show up in ethic groups located a great distance away, sometimes to the point where mixing would have been highly unlikely or impossible. This is found most evidently in the peculiar case of a Native American group having a similar haplogroup to Europeans (not due to recent mixing). While romantic theories of prehistoric contact are made, the actually (boring) culprit is a natural haplogroup variance.

In due time we might be able to drill into them to better figure out which group goes where, but for now these tests shouldn't be the sole means of determining ethnic ancestry.
The ethnicity reports have nothing to do with haplogroups. They use autosomal DNA, which does not have haplogroups. Haplogroups come from Y-DNA and mtDNA. Totally different types of DNA.
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Old 09-24-2018, 01:38 PM
 
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The ethnicity reports have nothing to do with haplogroups. They use autosomal DNA, which does not have haplogroups. Haplogroups come from Y-DNA and mtDNA. Totally different types of DNA.
That would certainly explain the numbers the OP is seeing then.
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Old 09-27-2018, 05:13 PM
 
Location: Fort Payne Alabama
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In addition, a couple can have 6 kids, the numbers will not be the same on any of them just based upon how the genes line up. We often see families where the kids hardly resemble each other, but they are brothers and sisters.
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Old 05-26-2019, 01:25 AM
 
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I'm confused! Our family had heard all of our lives (from my grandfather), that My maternal great great grandmother was half Cherokee(Mom) and half caucasian (Dad), and my great great grandfather was 100% Madagascan. My grandfather, while growing up, was actually told this by his grandmother. (My great great grandmother)! We actually have a picture of her, and she does have what would be considered native american features, with very fair skin. My grandfather, and his daughter (my mom) has similar features. And, quite a few people have asked do we have "Indian" in our family? However, when we did the DNA test from Ancestry, neither my mom, myself, or my 2 older daughters showed any native american "Indian" DNA. But, my half brother (from Mom) showed 1% native american, and my youngest daughter showed a trace amount
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Old 05-26-2019, 08:21 AM
 
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I'm confused! Our family had heard all of our lives (from my grandfather), that My maternal great great grandmother was half Cherokee(Mom) and half caucasian (Dad), and my great great grandfather was 100% Madagascan. My grandfather, while growing up, was actually told this by his grandmother. (My great great grandmother)! We actually have a picture of her, and she does have what would be considered native american features, with very fair skin. My grandfather, and his daughter (my mom) has similar features. And, quite a few people have asked do we have "Indian" in our family? However, when we did the DNA test from Ancestry, neither my mom, myself, or my 2 older daughters showed any native american "Indian" DNA. But, my half brother (from Mom) showed 1% native american, and my youngest daughter showed a trace amount
Happens all the time. Families pass down incorrect information and it always seems to be Indian and when it is Indian it seems to always be Cherokee. They usually have a picture of an ancestor that looks Indian.

Henry Louis Gates covered this in one of his shows.
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Old 05-26-2019, 12:00 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I'm confused! Our family had heard all of our lives (from my grandfather), that My maternal great great grandmother was half Cherokee(Mom) and half caucasian (Dad), and my great great grandfather was 100% Madagascan. My grandfather, while growing up, was actually told this by his grandmother. (My great great grandmother)! We actually have a picture of her, and she does have what would be considered native american features, with very fair skin. My grandfather, and his daughter (my mom) has similar features. And, quite a few people have asked do we have "Indian" in our family? However, when we did the DNA test from Ancestry, neither my mom, myself, or my 2 older daughters showed any native american "Indian" DNA. But, my half brother (from Mom) showed 1% native american, and my youngest daughter showed a trace amount
That's not unusual. For one thing, your 2nd great grandmother might have been less Native American than she thought - lots of people are. So if your last full blooded ancestor was from further back than you thought, it's entirely possible that your family didn't inherit any identifiable Native American DNA. It's also possible she wasn't actually Native American at all - unless you have verifiable documentation of it, it's a common scenario for people to have family stories about Native American ancestry which just isn't true. Keep in mind as well, the ethnicity report is only an estimate and it's best not to take it literally.
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