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Old 08-03-2017, 02:55 AM
 
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I know my Geography as well as my history. I also know that if you tell a Scotsman he is English or British that doesn't go over very well. Having been raised to be proud of my Scottish heritage those could be consoder d fighting words!
The English specifically refers to the invading armies that came from present day Germany and Denmark 1500 years ago to take over the southern part of the island of Britain.

"Scotch Irish" is an American term, and largely refers to settlers in the 18th century to distinguish them from the 19th century immigrants from Ireland. The closest term to "Scotch Irish" in the home lands is "Ulster Scots" as most of the original inhabitants of northern Ireland were forcibly displaced mostly by Scotsmen with some English in the 17th century.

The terms "Britain" and "British" are slightly different. Britain refers to the eastern island constituting Scotland, England and Wales, while "British" as an adjective includes Britain and northern Ireland.

Queen Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon (4 August 1900 – 30 March 2002), mother of the current Queen and daughter of the 14th Earl of Strathmore and Kinghorne is often considered the quintessential Scotswoman, as she was in direct line of descent from John Lyon, Lord of Glamis, thane of Tannadyce (c.1340 – 4 November 1382), was Chamberlain of Scotland (1377 and 1382).

In reality, as more than a dozen generations of Scottish Earls had taken English brides, she was only a small percentage Scottish. The Queen Mother's ethnic makeup (to 12 generations) is calculated as:
77.5390625% English
12.5 % Anglo-Irish
5.17578125% French
3.125 % Irish
0.87890625% Scottish
0.78125% Dutch
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Old 08-03-2017, 10:05 AM
 
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As Jeremy Clarkson joked, when they become famous or accomplished, they are then referred to as British, the same goes for the Welsh. Alexander Graham Bell, for example.
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Old 08-05-2017, 05:38 PM
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As Jeremy Clarkson joked, when they become famous or accomplished, they are then referred to as British, the same goes for the Welsh. Alexander Graham Bell, for example.
Actor Richard Harris publicly noted that before Clarkson was out of short trousers. Harris said when he won an award the newspaper headlines referred to him as a 'British actor' but when he got into a shoving match "down ta pub" the headlines read, 'Irish actor in brawl.'
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