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Old 08-04-2017, 08:28 AM
 
Location: CA--> NEK VT--> Pitt Co, NC
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Here's a Gedmatch number for a Tunisian Jew from Djerba that matches some Sephardi's the identity is private and it is a research kit. Matching segments between 5-7cm are prior to a genealogical time frame.

T892307
I have a friend from Tunisia. Would have loved to have told her that I matched this profile.

My family migrated to the british isles so long ago, I don't even see ME or north african ancestry in that part of the tree anymore.

Thanks for the reference.
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Old 08-04-2017, 08:44 AM
 
Location: Kalamalka Lake, B.C.
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You're asking how to make actual DNA results match what someone told you about your ancestry? Interesting, wanting the science to be made to match the fable.


Could be that the oral history is wrong, or even a lie. Happens all the time.
What's even more interesting is that not too long ago, you simply didn't talk about some mixed progeny issues. I have an adoptive brother that I'd bet my next investment check he's got a lot of First Nations in him and I met both of his parents briefly as a child. You also just didn't talk about such things as out of wedlock, and even birth dates would be forward dated to show you were born "legally" at the county hall of records.

As an example: Quebec is Roman Catholic, but you never "fratinized" with the locals. But since the 1500's
99% of the new arrivals were men, and the only women were nuns or the Monsigneurs' wife. So, drum roll, where did all those babies come from???
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Old 08-04-2017, 09:09 AM
 
Location: CA--> NEK VT--> Pitt Co, NC
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What's even more interesting is that not too long ago, you simply didn't talk about some mixed progeny issues. I have an adoptive brother that I'd bet my next investment check he's got a lot of First Nations in him and I met both of his parents briefly as a child. You also just didn't talk about such things as out of wedlock, and even birth dates would be forward dated to show you were born "legally" at the county hall of records.

As an example: Quebec is Roman Catholic, but you never "fratinized" with the locals. But since the 1500's
99% of the new arrivals were men, and the only women were nuns or the Monsigneurs' wife. So, drum roll, where did all those babies come from???
Funny you mention that. I JUST had this discussion with someone who matched as a DNA cousin through my husband since a lot of the women in his tree are from Quebec.

This is one way France fixed that issue.
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Old 08-04-2017, 10:28 AM
 
Location: colorado springs, CO
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Would be great if you could find it!
I think I should be able to.

However; in the meantime ... You mentioned 3 surnames in particular: Leachmann, Cohen & Shapiro.

The origin of the surname Leachmann is actually Old English. Cohen is broadly Jewish. Shapiro ... is Ashkenazi. More specifically; it is Ashkenazi from the Jews who settled in the region of Speyer, Germany along the River Rhine.

Based on that; your 3.2% Middle Eastern DNA might not be as significant as would typically be the case. You mentioned two 6th generation Jews; if that is correct I feel like you might need to look for a population with a higher % of representation. I only had 1 suspected 6th generation ancestor with zero oral history & my actual result of 6.53% was pretty close to my pre-test calculation of 6.25%.

What do you know about that 8.90% of Eastern European?
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Old 08-04-2017, 10:54 AM
 
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I think I should be able to.

However; in the meantime ... You mentioned 3 surnames in particular: Leachmann, Cohen & Shapiro.

The origin of the surname Leachmann is actually Old English. Cohen is broadly Jewish. Shapiro ... is Ashkenazi. More specifically; it is Ashkenazi from the Jews who settled in the region of Speyer, Germany along the River Rhine.

Based on that; your 3.2% Middle Eastern DNA might not be as significant as would typically be the case. You mentioned two 6th generation Jews; if that is correct I feel like you might need to look for a population with a higher % of representation. I only had 1 suspected 6th generation ancestor with zero oral history & my actual result of 6.53% was pretty close to my pre-test calculation of 6.25%.

What do you know about that 8.90% of Eastern European?
The eastern europe part consists of 1,7% balkan and the rest is displayed as east-europe
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Old 08-04-2017, 11:05 AM
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I have a friend from Tunisia. Would have loved to have told her that I matched this profile.

My family migrated to the british isles so long ago, I don't even see ME or north african ancestry in that part of the tree anymore.

Thanks for the reference.
It is an interesting genetic profile which clusters most closely with Mizrahi and Sephardim diasporas then Ashkenazim then Palestinians, Lebanese, Druze, Jordanians, Syrians Sicialians and more distantly with Egytians and Saudi's and Greeeks. In Europe when using the Eurogenes Gedmatch calculators the closest population is Andalusians.


Quoted from Wikipedia article "This community is unique in Jewish history for its unusually high percentage of Kohanim (Hebrew; the Jewish Priestly caste), direct Patrilineal descendants of Aaron, the first Biblical high priest. Because of this, the island is known among Jews as the island of the Kohanim. One of the community's synagogues, known simply as El Ghriba synagogue, is one of the most famous synagogues in the world. This is because it has been in continuous use for over 2,000 years.[SIZE=2][6][/SIZE][SIZE=2][7][/SIZE] The Jews were settled in two main communities: the Hara Kabira ("the big quarter") and the Hara Saghira ("the small quarter"). The Hara Saghira identified itself with Israel, while the Hara Kabira identified with Spain and Morocco" End Quote


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Djerba
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Old 08-04-2017, 11:18 AM
 
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I think I should be able to.

However; in the meantime ... You mentioned 3 surnames in particular: Leachmann, Cohen & Shapiro.

The origin of the surname Leachmann is actually Old English. Cohen is broadly Jewish. Shapiro ... is Ashkenazi. More specifically; it is Ashkenazi from the Jews who settled in the region of Speyer, Germany along the River Rhine.

Based on that; your 3.2% Middle Eastern DNA might not be as significant as would typically be the case. You mentioned two 6th generation Jews; if that is correct I feel like you might need to look for a population with a higher % of representation. I only had 1 suspected 6th generation ancestor with zero oral history & my actual result of 6.53% was pretty close to my pre-test calculation of 6.25%.

What do you know about that 8.90% of Eastern European?
Isn't it so that you can inherit 0-50% of your parents? Maybe my mother did inherit less of the DNA then yours... Dunno man
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