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Old 08-14-2017, 10:11 AM
 
Location: Southern California
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I did a 23andme test last year and do not know my parents. Long story short is that my results show me as 50% Jewish and the other 50% European (mix of east/west/south/north). It said that a parent or grandparent most likely was Jewish (it said 1-2 generations), while the other 50% European show origins of like 6+ generations. Googling showed me this particular Jewish variant (Ashk.) are Jewish people who eventually settled in Eastern Europe.

I'm just a bit confused by the whole thing. I've done some research since getting the results but I'm having a hard time figuring out exactly what this means. I read how this particular group keeps to themselves and that's how DNA tests like this are able to identify me as 50% Jewish.

I'm just confused how all my DNA is seemingly European yet 50% of it is somehow European and Jewish. Does this mean if I go back far enough my ancestors on the 50% Jewish side all came from the Israel region? Just trying to soak this all in and find out what it means/where I'm from.

Thank you all in advance!
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Florida -
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Geneticists are equally confused about whether to define "Jewish" as a religion or a genetic race marker. (ie; IOW, are you descended from natural born or converted "Jews"?)

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Old 08-14-2017, 02:19 PM
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First, you are from wherever you was born or grew up.

Second, Ashkenazi Jews are generally from Germany. I too have some Ashkenazi Jewish DNA, albeit it's only a trickle compare to yours.

I don't quite understand your confusion. Ashkenazi Jews and the rest of Europeans are all Europeans.
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Old 08-14-2017, 02:35 PM
 
Location: The Triad (NC)
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Long story short is that my results show me as 50% (Aashkenazi) Jewish...
I'm just confused how all my DNA is seemingly (various) European ...yet 50% of it is (Ashkenazi European)

Does this mean if I go back far enough my ancestors on the 50% Jewish side...
Not even so far back... it's rather likely that ONE of your parents is 100% Ashkenazi.
Next likely is that EACH parent in turn has one parent who is 100% Ashkenazi.
What did your parents tell you? Can they be tested?

In WW2 that would be good enough for Himmler to send you and your kids to the camps.
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As to the other 50% that's likely a European stew -- a melting pot.
But the report should be more specific.

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Old 08-14-2017, 03:09 PM
 
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I'm 44% 'European Jewish' and the balance is Great Britain, Ireland and Western Europe. This makes perfect sense as my father was Jewish and I knew that my Great Grandparents had left Lithuania (which was part of Russia then) around 1880. My mother was English and I have traced her family back to around 1700 in the Midlands and the North of England.

Between 1860 and 1910 round three million jews fled persecution in Eastern Europe, mainly the Russian Empire. Most went to the USA and around 20% ended up in Western Europe. European Jews can be defined as an ethnicity due to the extent of inter-marriage and inter-breeding*.

With 50% European Jewish, chances are that one of your parents is Jewish.

* Watch out for high cholesterol, high blood pressure and heart disease.
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Old 08-14-2017, 05:46 PM
 
Location: North by Northwest
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Geneticists are equally confused about whether to define "Jewish" as a religion or a genetic race marker. (ie; IOW, are you descended from natural born or converted "Jews"?)
I'm not sure what this means. Whether or not you're tacitly endorsing this theory, some people are insistent on proving that certain Jewish ethnic groups, especially Ashkenazim, are "imposters." However, reputable, peer-reviewed genetic studies have shown, time and again, that Ashkenazi Jews have Y-chromosomal Levantine origins. Mitochondrial DNA studies have been less conclusive but still suggest at least some Near Eastern maternal ancestry.
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Old 08-14-2017, 07:43 PM
 
Location: Ozark Mountains
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My results are always around 3% to 5% Askenazi, at FTDNA, Ancestry, Gedmatch, etc
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Illinois
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I would believe a 50% Jewish result, even though you may not be 1/2 Jewish.

23andMe used to have a chromosome browser with DNA matching (with maps and AJ matches) a few years back. This would have been perfect for you to get more info.
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Old 08-14-2017, 09:57 PM
 
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One of your parents was most likely fully Ashkenazi Jewish.

What was your haplogroup (s)?

Do you match several others with Ashkenazi ancestry?

My uncle came back nearly 1/4. In our case it was my direct paternal great grandfather who was from Romania, and who had changed his name.
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Old 08-14-2017, 10:03 PM
 
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First, you are from wherever you was born or grew up.

Second, Ashkenazi Jews are generally from Germany. I too have some Ashkenazi Jewish DNA, albeit it's only a trickle compare to yours.

I don't quite understand your confusion. Ashkenazi Jews and the rest of Europeans are all Europeans.
Various calculators and other websites not, "tuned," for Jewish DNA typically think that our Ashkenazi portion is from West Asian, the Middle East, or Mediterranean. Or some combination of various regions. I'm not so sure that they are genetically European. Classically Caucasian, yes, but maybe not quite European.

My Dad's paternal haplogroup is J1E which many Arabic and Ashkenazi Jewish men have. Based on appearance of my ancestor and others, I'd really guess that many were more Middle Eastern rather than Europe.

Although I guess no one quite knows for sure!
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