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Old 01-26-2018, 12:33 AM
 
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My Grandma took the DNA test and got her results. A little background- my Grandma is full Mexican (both her parents are from Mexico), but we always figured she was a mix of Native American and Spaniard. In her results she had both Native American (from Mexico) and Iberian Peninsula DNA. Not shocking. But in addition, she had 8% South Asian (India, Pakistan, etc) and 20% Southern European (Italy/Greece) along with numerous trace regions.

So I guess my question is, how common is Italian/Greek ancestry in Mexico? Same with South Asian? Was there a time when India (or other neighboring countries) invaded Spain and settled there? Was there also a time when Italy or Greece may have invaded Spain, or was it common for a lot of them to immigrate directly to Mexico? I'm just curious on what the explanation could be on why she has this DNA even though her family was in Mexico for generations. This has me very intrigued.
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Old 01-26-2018, 01:00 AM
 
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My Grandma took the DNA test and got her results. A little background- my Grandma is full Mexican (both her parents are from Mexico), but we always figured she was a mix of Native American and Spaniard. In her results she had both Native American (from Mexico) and Iberian Peninsula DNA. Not shocking. But in addition, she had 8% South Asian (India, Pakistan, etc) and 20% Southern European (Italy/Greece) along with numerous trace regions.

So I guess my question is, how common is Italian/Greek ancestry in Mexico? Same with South Asian? Was there a time when India (or other neighboring countries) invaded Spain and settled there? Was there also a time when Italy or Greece may have invaded Spain, or was it common for a lot of them to immigrate directly to Mexico? I'm just curious on what the explanation could be on why she has this DNA even though her family was in Mexico for generations. This has me very intrigued.
Keep in mind that Spain has had a Muslim and South Asian population for hundreds of years, as well as Greeks and Italians who settled there. Populations in Europe were pretty fluid. Which test did she take? Was it mtDNA or Autosomal?

In the meantime, this seems pretty informative.... http://www.nuestrosranchos.com/en/node/23548
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Old 01-26-2018, 02:23 AM
 
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Keep in mind that Spain has had a Muslim and South Asian population for hundreds of years, as well as Greeks and Italians who settled there. Populations in Europe were pretty fluid. Which test did she take? Was it mtDNA or Autosomal?

In the meantime, this seems pretty informative.... Italian Ancestry in Jalisco | Nuestros Ranchos
It was ancestry dna so Autosomal.

Also, that is an interesting link, its the region our dna showed as being from (Zacatecas & Aguascalientes). I wonder if its a distant cousin.

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Old 01-26-2018, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Colorado (PA at heart)
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My Grandma took the DNA test and got her results. A little background- my Grandma is full Mexican (both her parents are from Mexico), but we always figured she was a mix of Native American and Spaniard. In her results she had both Native American (from Mexico) and Iberian Peninsula DNA. Not shocking. But in addition, she had 8% South Asian (India, Pakistan, etc) and 20% Southern European (Italy/Greece) along with numerous trace regions.

So I guess my question is, how common is Italian/Greek ancestry in Mexico? Same with South Asian? Was there a time when India (or other neighboring countries) invaded Spain and settled there? Was there also a time when Italy or Greece may have invaded Spain, or was it common for a lot of them to immigrate directly to Mexico? I'm just curious on what the explanation could be on why she has this DNA even though her family was in Mexico for generations. This has me very intrigued.
There was Italian immigration to Mexico, there is even still a Venetian dialect spoken in Mexico: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexica...ropean_descent

However, it's just as possible that the Southern European results are simply a part of her Iberian ancestry. The Mediterranean is a very mixed area and shares a lot of DNA, making it difficult sometimes to tell them apart.

As for South Asian, there has also been Asian immigration to Mexico: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Mexicans
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Old 01-26-2018, 08:40 AM
 
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Keep in mind that Spain has had a Muslim and South Asian population for hundreds of years, as well as Greeks and Italians who settled there. Populations in Europe were pretty fluid. Which test did she take? Was it mtDNA or Autosomal?

In the meantime, this seems pretty informative.... Italian Ancestry in Jalisco | Nuestros Ranchos
mtDNA does not provide ethnicity percentages - anytime someone is talking about getting 20% of this region and 8% of that region in their DNA results, that's going to be autosomal DNA.
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Old 01-26-2018, 09:53 AM
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My Grandma took the DNA test and got her results. A little background- my Grandma is full Mexican (both her parents are from Mexico), but we always figured she was a mix of Native American and Spaniard. In her results she had both Native American (from Mexico) and Iberian Peninsula DNA. Not shocking. But in addition, she had 8% South Asian (India, Pakistan, etc) and 20% Southern European (Italy/Greece) along with numerous trace regions.

So I guess my question is, how common is Italian/Greek ancestry in Mexico? Same with South Asian? Was there a time when India (or other neighboring countries) invaded Spain and settled there? Was there also a time when Italy or Greece may have invaded Spain, or was it common for a lot of them to immigrate directly to Mexico? I'm just curious on what the explanation could be on why she has this DNA even though her family was in Mexico for generations. This has me very intrigued.
The south Asian component is not common in Spaniards I've only seen it a few times and I've seen hundreds of results from Spaniards and Latin Americans. The south Asian likely indicates some Gypsy ancestors and no it was not common for Gypsies to marry non-Gypsies. It's possible you may find records of this ancestry in Mexican records. I know that in Portugal for a period of time historically Gypsies were classified as an undesirable group and quite a few were forcibly moved to the colonies. I suspect that was the case for Spain as well.
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Old 01-26-2018, 11:26 AM
 
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mtDNA does not provide ethnicity percentages - anytime someone is talking about getting 20% of this region and 8% of that region in their DNA results, that's going to be autosomal DNA.
Some mtDNA tests do provide this information. I had my mtDNA and Autosomal done through FTDNA. They offer an Ancestral Origins breakdown of your matches with others for mtDNA results. I thought maybe that was what the OP could have been referring to
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Old 01-26-2018, 01:56 PM
 
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Some mtDNA tests do provide this information. I had my mtDNA and Autosomal done through FTDNA. They offer an Ancestral Origins breakdown of your matches with others for mtDNA results. I thought maybe that was what the OP could have been referring to
No, mtDNA does not provide an ethnicity report (admixture) with percentages. The "Ancestral Origins" in mtDNA results are just percentages of how many of your mtDNA matches have a direct maternal lineage from those places, it's not an ethnicity report for yourself, nor does it mean you have any ancestry in those places. It's not the same as an ethnicity report/admixture, at all. It wouldn't be possible to get an ethnicity report/admixture from mtDNA to begin with, because mtDNA is only from the direct maternal line (ie, your mother's mother's mother's mother, etc), it's not your whole background.
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Old 01-26-2018, 03:19 PM
 
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I second Gypsy - my grandmother had Italian, North African and South Asian & my father on the other side (but not his brother, so who knows) had South Asian and Middle
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Old 01-26-2018, 10:02 PM
 
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My Grandma took the DNA test and got her results. A little background- my Grandma is full Mexican (both her parents are from Mexico), but we always figured she was a mix of Native American and Spaniard. In her results she had both Native American (from Mexico) and Iberian Peninsula DNA. Not shocking. But in addition, she had 8% South Asian (India, Pakistan, etc) and 20% Southern European (Italy/Greece) along with numerous trace regions.

So I guess my question is, how common is Italian/Greek ancestry in Mexico? Same with South Asian? Was there a time when India (or other neighboring countries) invaded Spain and settled there? Was there also a time when Italy or Greece may have invaded Spain, or was it common for a lot of them to immigrate directly to Mexico? I'm just curious on what the explanation could be on why she has this DNA even though her family was in Mexico for generations. This has me very intrigued.
Mexicans are related to the people from the Philippines and Guam too. Especially mexicans from the Pacific Coast.
And people from the Philippines and Guam are related to Mexicans as well.
This is because of the Manila Galleon. The commerce ships from the Great Spanish Empire, they came from Spain and landed in Veracruz and transported everything by land to Acapulco and the Manila galleons sailed all the way to Manila and Guam and then Saipan and China, this cultural , commercial and political relation lasted for more than 300 years !!
Actually, people from Guam and the Philippines should be Hispanics, they are related to the Spanish Culture.
So, is not weird to find Asian DNA in mexicans. Or Spanish (European DNA) in people from the Philippines or Guam
You can wiki Manila Galleons to find more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_galleon
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