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Old 02-09-2018, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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Can anyone point me to any online source for a lawsuit that happened in 1913/14 in New York city? I'm looking for the outcome. This would have been a civil case.
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No, I'm researching an ancestor who was involved in a family lawsuit. I'm trying to trace the possibility of a child from a previous marriage and what happened to the mother.
You'll need to go to the appropriate county and conduct the search yourself (or hire someone to do it for you).
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Old 02-10-2018, 06:27 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Are you for real?

I did say I didn't think there was one but I wanted to ask anyway.
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Old 02-10-2018, 08:02 AM
 
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I saw court records online for that time period for the Bronx but not Manhattan.

There may be information about children/their parents in church records. Do you know if they practiced a religion?
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Old 02-10-2018, 10:55 AM
 
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You all are great! I know what I will be doing tomorrow.




I just discovered that my grandfather was previously married. I'm not even sure my dad knew that. So fascinating.


If you're looking for Manhattan divorce records than they are at the Old Records Div. at 31 Chambers, 7th floor. I put that info in a previous post.


There is an index and the records are stored off site.


So, it's a two trip deal. Once to search the index, the other to see the file.


When I went back to see the file of a 1913 divorce (hubby's grandfather) I had to go to a different building to view the retrieved file.


Remember that the 7th floor of 31 Chambers is only open two days per week.
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Old 02-10-2018, 11:00 AM
 
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You can call the clerk for the jurisdiction where the case was heard and ask if they can produce records for you. Chances are they can do the search for you but it will take a while and you'll have to pay for the time to retrieve and produce the records. Alternatively they may have deposited the records with the local city library or a local university library which probably transferred them to microfiche. The clerk should be able to find where the records went.

Another option is to contact the state or county's vital statistics department. By the 1910s New York might have formally recorded that information. They may be able to release some of that information to you if you can prove a familial relationship--assuming you have a name.
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Old 02-10-2018, 02:34 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Try searching old digitized NYC newspapers at this free site:
www.fultonhistory.com


There may have been a notice in the paper.


You can search by name or other keywords.
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Fulton History contains an amazing amount of information but can be tricky to navigate.

Hints on using it here:

Searching the Fulton History Newspaper Site - Cliff Lamere


BLESS YOU BOTH!


I found exactly what I was looking for!


Ok, so Grandfather married an 18 year old woman (who I had never heard of before this!) and she left him 8 months later. The "child" I thought was of their marriage was actually her, because she was, according to the court of the era, still not of the age of majority and required a guardian at litem to actually litigate the divorce! (the reference I had seen referred to an "infant" but apparently 18 years old was considered an "infant" because the age of majority was 21)


*whew*


So, the next interesting bit is Grandfather actually sued his MIL because he believed she was the reason for the "alienation of affection" from his wife, and stated that he believed his MIL wanted her daughter to divorce so she could marry a "French count".


He, apparently, won that case but the verdict was sealed. When the wife turned 21 she sued Grandfather again for a divorce, which was granted this time, and she married the "French count" 4 days after her divorce was final!




OMG, I could write a book about that....






*going to go dust off a few more skeletons in that closet*






THANK YOU for your help!
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Old 02-10-2018, 04:54 PM
 
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That is quite the story.
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Old 02-10-2018, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Colorado (PA at heart)
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Are you for real?
Why is that such an unbelievable question? Some court documents are available online.
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Old 02-10-2018, 07:30 PM
 
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What a story!


In NYC divorce records are sealed for 100 years. You said this was around 1913, so you should be able to obtain the file.
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Old 02-28-2018, 02:27 PM
 
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What a story!


In NYC divorce records are sealed for 100 years. You said this was around 1913, so you should be able to obtain the file.
OH! That would be interesting. I really wish I had the time to visit NY and dig through this stuff.
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