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Old 02-18-2018, 12:55 PM
 
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Some genealogy is tough when finding step relatives can be more straight forward (for me and others) in many cases. So I'll ask the genealogy question here.
John Adams Chubb born 8-17-1875 in Pontoosue, Illinois. His great (great?) grand daughter said that when she was growing up she heard that when her ancestors came to America their name was Shoop or Shue and later changed to Chubb.
Anyone want to take a look for us? Thanks.
Name change records and country of origin. I'll check the 1880 census myself later today.
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Old 02-18-2018, 01:56 PM
 
Location: Colorado (PA at heart)
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Parents Cyrus Chubb and Phianna/Phian Ceigler (possibly Zeigler), both born in PA.

Name: John A. Chubb
Age: 6
Birth Date: Abt 1874
Birthplace: Illinois
Home in 1880: Pontoosuc, Hancock, Illinois, USA
Dwelling Number: 166
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's name: Cyrus Chubb
Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's name: Phianna Chubb
Mother's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Cyrus Chubb 36
Phianna Chubb 34
Lydia M. Chubb 12
Henry W. Chubb 10
Theodore A. Chubb 9
John A. Chubb 6
Chas. C. Chubb 2
Benjamin F. Chubb 8/12

John Adam Chubb
in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name: John Adam Chubb
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 17 Aug 1875
Birth Place: Pontoosuc, Illinois
Father: Cyrus Chubb
Mother: Phian Ceigler
SSN: 334120369
Notes: Oct 1939: Name listed as JOHN ADAM CHUBB

This may be Cyrus' death record, suggesting the surname was originally Tschupp:

Name: Cyrus Tschupp
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1846
Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Death Date: 13 Apr 1919
Death Place: Pontoosuc, Hancock, Illinois
Burial Date: 15 Apr 1919
Burial Place: Pontoosuc Twp., Hancock County, Illinois
Death Age: 72
Occupation: Carpenter-Farmer Retired
Race: White
Marital Status: M
Gender: Male
Father Name: Peter Tschupp
Father Birth Place: Penn.
Mother Name: Emma
Mother Birth Place: Penn
FHL Film Number: 1544469

Here he is on FindAGrave: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/73079010

1860 Census:
Name: Peter Chupp
Age: 55
Birth Year: abt 1805
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Home in 1860: Greenwood, Juniata, Pennsylvania
Post Office: Millerstown
Dwelling Number: 1504
Family Number: 1
Occupation: Farmer
Real Estate Value: 500
Personal Estate Value: 400
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Chupp 55
Lydia Chupp 51
Cyrus Chupp 16
Frederick Chupp 10
Peter Chupp 8
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Old 02-18-2018, 02:12 PM
 
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Trees on Ancestry say Peter's father was Johannes Tschopp BIRTH 1761 • Basel, Basel-Town, Switzerland DEATH 1813 • Swabian Creek, Northumberland, Pennsylvania, United States. I can't say how accurate this is but Tschupp/Tschopp does appear to be a Swiss name - and Basel is one of the "red" areas on this map, showing this name is commonly found in Basel: Verbreitung des Namens "Tschopp" in der Schweiz - verwandt.ch
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Old 02-18-2018, 02:22 PM
 
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Trees on Ancestry say Peter's father was Johannes Tschopp BIRTH 1761 • Basel, Basel-Town, Switzerland DEATH 1813 • Swabian Creek, Northumberland, Pennsylvania, United States. I can't say how accurate this is but Tschupp/Tschopp does appear to be a Swiss name - and Basel is one of the "red" areas on this map, showing this name is commonly found in Basel: Verbreitung des Namens "Tschopp" in der Schweiz - verwandt.ch
Good thanks. I'll pass the info on to her and she will appreciate your assistance.
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Old 02-18-2018, 06:20 PM
 
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Parents Cyrus Chubb and Phianna/Phian Ceigler (possibly Zeigler), both born in PA.

Name: John A. Chubb
Age: 6
Birth Date: Abt 1874
Birthplace: Illinois
Home in 1880: Pontoosuc, Hancock, Illinois, USA
Dwelling Number: 166
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's name: Cyrus Chubb
Father's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Mother's name: Phianna Chubb
Mother's Birthplace: Pennsylvania
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Cyrus Chubb 36
Phianna Chubb 34
Lydia M. Chubb 12
Henry W. Chubb 10
Theodore A. Chubb 9
John A. Chubb 6
Chas. C. Chubb 2
Benjamin F. Chubb 8/12

John Adam Chubb
in the U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index, 1936-2007
Name: John Adam Chubb
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birth Date: 17 Aug 1875
Birth Place: Pontoosuc, Illinois
Father: Cyrus Chubb
Mother: Phian Ceigler
SSN: 334120369
Notes: Oct 1939: Name listed as JOHN ADAM CHUBB

This may be Cyrus' death record, suggesting the surname was originally Tschupp:

Name: Cyrus Tschupp
Birth Date: 15 Jul 1846
Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Death Date: 13 Apr 1919
Death Place: Pontoosuc, Hancock, Illinois
Burial Date: 15 Apr 1919
Burial Place: Pontoosuc Twp., Hancock County, Illinois
Death Age: 72
Occupation: Carpenter-Farmer Retired
Race: White
Marital Status: M
Gender: Male
Father Name: Peter Tschupp
Father Birth Place: Penn.
Mother Name: Emma
Mother Birth Place: Penn
FHL Film Number: 1544469

Here he is on FindAGrave: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/73079010

1860 Census:
Name: Peter Chupp
Age: 55
Birth Year: abt 1805
Gender: Male
Birth Place: Pennsylvania
Home in 1860: Greenwood, Juniata, Pennsylvania
Post Office: Millerstown
Dwelling Number: 1504
Family Number: 1
Occupation: Farmer
Real Estate Value: 500
Personal Estate Value: 400
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Chupp 55
Lydia Chupp 51
Cyrus Chupp 16
Frederick Chupp 10
Peter Chupp 8
I have acquired more names.

Mother: Annie Mae Keeter (Dec. 20 VA or NC and Died 1977 in Norfolk, VA)
Father: Gerald Leo Chubb (8-22-1928 ? and Died 2010-2014 (MS or AL)

Grandmother: Francis Aleyne Dobbins (5-17-1910 Loraine, IL & died 4-23-1987 in LA)
Grandfather: Gerald Francis Chubb (5-31-1905 Niota, IL and died 10-6-1945 Oakland, CA)

Gr. Gr. Grandmother: Anna Jeannette Luce (5-14-1882 Isabella MI & died 9-18-1960 Pittsburgh, CA)
Gr. Gr. Grandfather: John Adam Chubb (8-17-1874 Pontoosue, IL & died 4-1-1949 Wallas City, IL)

It looks like John was her great grandfather and great, great is an error = ?
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From what I can tell in the notes on her mother's side is that Anna was the daughter of Francis Marion Luce and wife Sarah Pollard. Sarah pollard was the daughter of David Potter (Born 1814 in Ohio) and Susannah Mathias (Born 1819). All with dates and places of Birth and death.
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Old 02-19-2018, 05:36 PM
 
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This may be Cyrus' death record, suggesting the surname was originally Tschupp:

Here he is on FindAGrave: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/73079010
There are two Find A Grave listings for Cyrus. One is Chubb and the other shows Peter's last name. The one with Peters last name shows a spouse with last name Chubb and Cyrus the other three kids all have the last name of Chubb like their mother. So Peter's wife and kids did not keep his last name. Maybe hard to pronounce or spell. So I told the woman she is maybe well under 1% Swiss and further research would be needed to trace the Chubb's back from Peter's wife.

Her mother told her she thought they originated in Germany.
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The same person posted both photos of Cyrus. And a Mrs. Fish back in 2011 posted flowers for Cyrus and she said he was her great grandfather. A Fish was the married name of Cyrus sibling. I'll try to locate Mrs. Fish but if Cyrus is her great grandfather and Cyrus son is my friends great great grandfather and she is age 73 then Mrs. Fish may no longer be living.

She also wants to trace back her mother's birth name of Keeter. I suggested she better hope there are a trail of males going back due to married names.
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Old 03-08-2018, 05:21 PM
 
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Now we move to the Father's side and going back to 1855 via his obituary we have her great grandfather's birth date as Feb. 19, 1857. However a photo of the couple shows his date of birth as Feb. 12, 1855.

John Thomas Keeter (Feb 19, 1857 (or Feb. 12, 1855) to 1942)
Annie Hughes Keeter (if we believe the dates under the photo then Annie was born March 5, 1857)

John's parents were:
Geroge W. Keeter and Elizabeth Jonston Keeter (George is surely spelled wrong but Jonston could be accurate)

I have not found either George or Elizabeth in a census.

If anyone would like to play around with the names if you have an ancestry account, then thanks.
She'd like to know where the Keeters came from and according to a short Coat Of Arms article for Keter it speaks of Holland or Germany.
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Old 07-12-2019, 04:59 AM
 
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Default Gerald Leo Chubb is my father

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I have acquired more names.

Mother: Annie Mae Keeter (Dec. 20 VA or NC and Died 1977 in Norfolk, VA)
Father: Gerald Leo Chubb (8-22-1928 ? and Died 2010-2014 (MS or AL)

Grandmother: Francis Aleyne Dobbins (5-17-1910 Loraine, IL & died 4-23-1987 in LA)
Grandfather: Gerald Francis Chubb (5-31-1905 Niota, IL and died 10-6-1945 Oakland, CA)

Gr. Gr. Grandmother: Anna Jeannette Luce (5-14-1882 Isabella MI & died 9-18-1960 Pittsburgh, CA)
Gr. Gr. Grandfather: John Adam Chubb (8-17-1874 Pontoosue, IL & died 4-1-1949 Wallas City, IL)

It looks like John was her great grandfather and great, great is an error = ?
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From what I can tell in the notes on her mother's side is that Anna was the daughter of Francis Marion Luce and wife Sarah Pollard. Sarah pollard was the daughter of David Potter (Born 1814 in Ohio) and Susannah Mathias (Born 1819). All with dates and places of Birth and death.

My father is Gerald Leo Chubb and my grandparents are Francis Dobbins and Gerald Francis Chubb. My mother, Patricia Lou Chubb has done extensive research on the Chubb name. Let me know if you're interested in this information. The original name was Tschopp
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