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Old 10-01-2018, 04:46 PM
 
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Ancestry doesn't tell you its a half sibling, they just list it as close family.
My test was with 23andMe and they are more specific (whether factual or not) and in this particular case they had her listed as "Half Sister".
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Old 10-01-2018, 05:46 PM
 
Location: New Mexico
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Sorry for the confusion....I am so new to all of this!

I meant that the line does not go all the way. It only covers part of it on the right hand side. Hoping my screenshot will come through so you can see what I meant.
Great! This absolutely confirms you cannot have the same father.
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Old 10-01-2018, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Great! This absolutely confirms you cannot have the same father.


How do you know? They could have different mothers.
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Old 10-01-2018, 08:25 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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How do you know? They could have different mothers.
They are 1st cousins, not half sisters, so they do not share either a mother or a father. If they were paternal half sisters (different mothers), they would match (as "half identical") along the full length of the X chromosome - so in that screenshot, the purple bit on the X would cover the whole length, not the first portion that it does. So the amount of shared X DNA proves they do not share a father.

Just from looking at the DNA, they could be maternal half sisters (different fathers), since maternal half sisters only share about 50% of the (half identical) X chromosome. But since they know their fathers are brothers, that's highly unlikely. If they had the same mother and their fathers were brothers, they'd be 3/4 siblings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibling#Three-quarter and I'm pretty sure that would result in being fully identical (not half) on at least some portions of the X chromosome, which does not appear to be the case here.

There is a good chart here which shows how much shared X DNA is expected for different types of siblings: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...nt-the-half-it
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:35 PM
 
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Ancestry reported two cousins. They are a nephew and niece. Figured it out using logic and cM.

The logic being that it's impossible for me to have cousins their age.
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Old 10-01-2018, 09:51 PM
 
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How does an empty post get posted?
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Old 10-01-2018, 10:05 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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https://imgur.com/a/Jxb84U0



https://imgur.com/a/SUMBfUV




https://imgur.com/a/4CBkVCu



https://imgur.com/a/R2dPg9r



https://imgur.com/a/VnorDlI




This is what it looks like when two full siblings test on GED Match. This is me and my younger brother (Same Mother, Same Father). All the green areas are the DNA overlap we share from both of our parents. Virtually on every chromosome.
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Old 10-01-2018, 10:10 PM
 
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They are 1st cousins, not half sisters, so they do not share either a mother or a father. If they were paternal half sisters (different mothers), they would match (as "half identical") along the full length of the X chromosome - so in that screenshot, the purple bit on the X would cover the whole length, not the first portion that it does. So the amount of shared X DNA proves they do not share a father.

Just from looking at the DNA, they could be maternal half sisters (different fathers), since maternal half sisters only share about 50% of the (half identical) X chromosome. But since they know their fathers are brothers, that's highly unlikely. If they had the same mother and their fathers were brothers, they'd be 3/4 siblings: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sibling#Three-quarter and I'm pretty sure that would result in being fully identical (not half) on at least some portions of the X chromosome, which does not appear to be the case here.

There is a good chart here which shows how much shared X DNA is expected for different types of siblings: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...nt-the-half-it
We also have different maternal Haplogroups so, if I'm not mistake, then that would rule out being maternal half sisters :-)
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Old 10-02-2018, 09:11 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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https://imgur.com/a/Jxb84U0



https://imgur.com/a/SUMBfUV




https://imgur.com/a/4CBkVCu



https://imgur.com/a/R2dPg9r



https://imgur.com/a/VnorDlI




This is what it looks like when two full siblings test on GED Match. This is me and my younger brother (Same Mother, Same Father). All the green areas are the DNA overlap we share from both of our parents. Virtually on every chromosome.
Yep, that's what full siblings look like, but it's not really relevant to this case, since it was never a question of whether they were full siblings or not, and I think I read the OP's cousin isn't on Gedmatch for comparison anyway.

But I will point out that those green segments are showing full base pairs or segments that are fully identical. Only people who share a significant amount of DNA from both their paternal and maternal sides will have significant segments of those (tiny slivers are normal for anyone - but large chunks are significant). So essentially only full siblings, or like I saying, 3/4 siblings (such as sharing a mother and their fathers are brother), will see long lengths of those fully identical segments.
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Old 10-02-2018, 09:13 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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We also have different maternal Haplogroups so, if I'm not mistake, then that would rule out being maternal half sisters :-)
Yes, it does, good thinking.
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