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View Poll Results: What race my uncle is?
European 29 70.73%
Native American 2 4.88%
Black 10 24.39%
Voters: 41. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-01-2019, 02:38 PM
 
Location: Ozark Mountains
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DNA proves that it's not just a social construct. There are distinct and easily identifiable DNA differences between Europeans, Sub-Saharan Africans, Asians, and Native Americans. DNA ethnicity tests are largely accurate on this sort of "continental" level, which wouldn't be possible if it was just a "social construct".
Are Asians and Native Americans the same?
Native Americans are Siberians, they crossed into Alaska 22,000 years ago.

 
Old 05-01-2019, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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Are Asians and Native Americans the same?
Native Americans are Siberians, they crossed into Alaska 22,000 years ago.


Bering Strait Myth - Native Circle



OP he can call himself whatever he wants.
 
Old 05-01-2019, 02:54 PM
 
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DNA proves that it's not just a social construct. There are distinct and easily identifiable DNA differences between Europeans, Sub-Saharan Africans, Asians, and Native Americans. DNA ethnicity tests are largely accurate on this sort of "continental" level, which wouldn't be possible if it was just a "social construct".
Let me clarify. We make up the races. We decide what is and isn't a race and we decide who is and isn't part of a race. There is nothing in your DNA that says your race is this or that. All DNA heredity tests do is say you share heredity with certain other people more than others based on the sampling of a particular company and uses what we know about these people to make some inferences about your family tree's locational history. A black person and a white person might have more in common in their DNA and be more closely related to someone than someone of their "own race". There is no such thing as a biological race. Someone cannot look at your biology and say definitively what race you are, as if you are biologically different than someone of another race definitively. There is no "Black" gene, no "Asian" gene, no "Native American" gene, etc.


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Old 05-01-2019, 06:11 PM
 
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OP, you seem to be rather combative about the answers you're receiving to your question. Why is that?

And you keep slapping yourself in the head.

What do you consider him to be?
 
Old 05-01-2019, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Ozark Mountains
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Bering Strait Myth - Native Circle



OP he can call himself whatever he wants.
What do you mean? that Native Americans never came from Siberia?
 
Old 05-02-2019, 07:26 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I agree it is continental, but there are differences even within continents in regards to biology and ancestral origins that do not align with "race."
Yeah, but they are not as reliable or consistent and therefore not as definitive differences.

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Race really is primarily sociological and not biological. There are differences that can show ancestral communities by continent, but within continents there are a lot of variations.
But race IS primarily continental, that's why groups within continents are called ethnicities, and I agree that DNA is not as conclusive about ethnicities, but it is with race/continents, proving that race IS biological, but ethnicity is not necessarily. Ethnicity is more of a social construct, race really is not.
 
Old 05-02-2019, 07:30 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Are Asians and Native Americans the same?
Native Americans are Siberians, they crossed into Alaska 22,000 years ago.
No - one may have descended from the other, but they have been separated for long enough that they became distinctly different. Technically, we all descend from Africa if you go back far enough, that doesn't make us all African.
 
Old 05-02-2019, 07:32 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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All DNA heredity tests do is say you share heredity with certain other people more than others
Yeah, that's pretty much what race is...

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There is no "Black" gene, no "Asian" gene, no "Native American" gene, etc.
Never said there was.
 
Old 05-02-2019, 11:15 AM
 
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We are talking about scientific DNA issues here, not how do you feel.
Then he is a human from planet Earth.
There is NO SCIENCE that tells you your race based on percentage of possible geographic origination.
Somebody, please let me know: can a DNA determine your race? What is race anyway besides variation in skin color?

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Old 05-02-2019, 11:50 AM
 
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Then you have answered your own question about your uncle. At 65% European he is "majority European" so he is European according to your own words. Why are you bothering us with this useless question? Are you setting a trap for people to fall into?
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The Obama identified as black ( political reasons?) but was raised mostly as white..and biologically 50% white? So he could have gone either way, proving the race determination is really not Based on anything once we humans started” to mingle”
Every 4th in the world is Chinese, so all of our future generations may end up with a specific eyes and darker skins - mostly, there could be a few blondes or red heads left; it would be sad for me- love blue eyes!

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