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Hello all! I was curious about if there is a way to separate British & Irish DNA? I know it can be hard because they're very similar to each other genetically-speaking but I just thought it'd be kind of fun to see how much I was of each. I have known heritage of both England and Ireland on both sides of my family but no clue how much I am lol. I'm aware GEDmatch is not always accurate and it really depends on what calculator is better for your known background but I was just curious if anyone had any suggestions for the best calculator to use? I tried Eurogenes but it gives my top two pops as German and Dutch which should be VERY much lower than that from what I know but MDLP gives the top two pops as Irish and then English on some calcs and then Irish and Scottish on others.
I'd love to take the LivingDNA test to better separate all this but at the moment, I have no funds to do so.
Also, I'd be more than happy to supply my kit number and/or calculator results if that may help.
Hello all! I was curious about if there is a way to separate British & Irish DNA? I know it can be hard because they're very similar to each other genetically-speaking but I just thought it'd be kind of fun to see how much I was of each. I have known heritage of both England and Ireland on both sides of my family but no clue how much I am lol. I'm aware GEDmatch is not always accurate and it really depends on what calculator is better for your known background but I was just curious if anyone had any suggestions for the best calculator to use? I tried Eurogenes but it gives my top two pops as German and Dutch which should be VERY much lower than that from what I know but MDLP gives the top two pops as Irish and then English on some calcs and then Irish and Scottish on others.
I'd love to take the LivingDNA test to better separate all this but at the moment, I have no funds to do so.
Also, I'd be more than happy to supply my kit number and/or calculator results if that may help.
Thanks!
LivingDNA free upload, see button on bottom of the page.
Oh really? I thought that was only for getting DNA matches though? Hm... I had done a free upload once but they never gave me any DNA results with it so I figured I'd just have to buy it later down the road.
Oh really? I thought that was only for getting DNA matches though? Hm... I had done a free upload once but they never gave me any DNA results with it so I figured I'd just have to buy it later down the road.
Last I heard, that was the case, they no longer include an ethnicity report in the free upload. But their full ancestry test is currently on sale for $69.
Gedmatch is really pretty outdated now. What company did you test with? AncestryDNA splits Ireland & Scotland from England & Wales, but there's no assurance the estimate is totally accurate. However, my husband is British with an Irish father, so according to his tree, he should be about 40% English and 60% Irish and Scottish. His AncestryDNA results are 43% England/Wales and 56% Ireland/Scotland.
MyHeritage also try to split up English from Irish/Scottish/Welsh, but I haven't found them to be as reliable as AncestryDNA. My husband gets 57.2% in Irish/Scottish/Welsh, which is pretty accurate, but his remaining English ancestry gets put into "North and West European" instead, which according to the map is primarily Germany/France, not England. However, it's safe to assume that is his English ancestry, so apart from it being put in the wrong category, the percentage split is pretty accurate and very consistent with AncestryDNA.
Both AncestryDNA and MyHeritage usually have Father's Day sales, which are coming up soon. You can upload AncestryDNA to MyHeritage for a small fee but not vice versa, so I'd recommend buying AncestryDNA, not MyHeritage.
If you tested with 23andMe or FTDNA, you should be able to upload to MyHeritage for a small fee.
Last I heard, that was the case, they no longer include an ethnicity report in the free upload. But their full ancestry test is currently on sale for $69.
Gedmatch is really pretty outdated now. What company did you test with? AncestryDNA splits Ireland & Scotland from England & Wales, but there's no assurance the estimate is totally accurate. However, my husband is British with an Irish father, so according to his tree, he should be about 40% English and 60% Irish and Scottish. His AncestryDNA results are 43% England/Wales and 56% Ireland/Scotland.
MyHeritage also try to split up English from Irish/Scottish/Welsh, but I haven't found them to be as reliable as AncestryDNA. My husband gets 57.2% in Irish/Scottish/Welsh, which is pretty accurate, but his remaining English ancestry gets put into "North and West European" instead, which according to the map is primarily Germany/France, not England. However, it's safe to assume that is his English ancestry, so apart from it being put in the wrong category, the percentage split is pretty accurate and very consistent with AncestryDNA.
Both AncestryDNA and MyHeritage usually have Father's Day sales, which are coming up soon. You can upload AncestryDNA to MyHeritage for a small fee but not vice versa, so I'd recommend buying AncestryDNA, not MyHeritage.
If you tested with 23andMe or FTDNA, you should be able to upload to MyHeritage for a small fee.
Oh is it? Hm, that's not a bad deal then! I might have to do that, seems like the best way of figuring it out really.
Hm, that sounds like AncestryDNA did really well then on splitting them, the percentages sound about right! I actually tested at 23andMe but when I uploaded it to MyHeritage, it didn't give me any Irish results at all instead it just told me I was 69.5% English. But 23andMe gives me 43.9% British & Irish. But for me, I think MyHeritage gave more inaccuracies than anything - I'm about an 1/8th Mexican on my mother's side and it gave me 12% Mesoamerican & Andean but left out my Spanish DNA entirely. As well as giving me a mysterious 8% Italian which I have no known ancestors for - which really could just be my Spanish DNA, I suppose but categorized wrong.
Hm, well, I'll go ahead and list my GEDmatch results below anyway if it may help? I feel like Eurogenes is not a good fit for my ancestry but MDLP seem to hit it more accurately. Although I think it pulls more to Irish than English? Not sure.
I score 15% for French & German on 23andMe so it seems to me that Dutch/German would be coming up a LOT less than it is on the Eurogenes calculators. Seems as if it's pulling more to Irish than English here but I'm not certain. Any thoughts?
Also, I'd like to mention that according to my DNA results, I also carry genes for Alpha-1 Antitrypsin Deficiency and Hemochromatosis which are both prevalent Irish diseases, I believe.
Oh is it? Hm, that's not a bad deal then! I might have to do that, seems like the best way of figuring it out really.
Hm, that sounds like AncestryDNA did really well then on splitting them, the percentages sound about right! I actually tested at 23andMe but when I uploaded it to MyHeritage, it didn't give me any Irish results at all instead it just told me I was 69.5% English. But 23andMe gives me 43.9% British & Irish. But for me, I think MyHeritage gave more inaccuracies than anything - I'm about an 1/8th Mexican on my mother's side and it gave me 12% Mesoamerican & Andean but left out my Spanish DNA entirely. As well as giving me a mysterious 8% Italian which I have no known ancestors for - which really could just be my Spanish DNA, I suppose but categorized wrong.
Well, keep in mind the more mixed your ancestry is, the harder it can be to tell them apart. My husband's father was Irish, and his mother was English (though going back far enough she had one Irish branch and one Scottish branch), so he's pretty close to 50/50 - father's side vs mother's side. Since you have Irish and English on both sides, and some Mexican/Native American/Spanish mixed in there too, there's much more admixture, and so it might be more difficult to tell the different British Isles apart.
For example, my grandfather's ancestry is German and British, on both sides. His ethnicity reports are all over the place. Some give him more German than British, and some give him more British than German. That could just be because Germans and British share a lot of DNA so they're hard to tell apart, but it's also possible that if he had a German father and British mother, rather than both on both sides, the ethnicity report might be able to tell them apart better because there's been less recombination of the two ethnicities.
What does 23andMe say for your sub-regions? I know they don't include percentages, but neither does Gedmatch's Oracle.
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