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Old 12-19-2020, 12:19 PM
 
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I understand it is concentrated on the Northern and Southern islands, with much less mixing in the middle, but I would be curious to know the average.

I am not Japanese and have no dog in the fight, I just find it interesting.
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Old 12-19-2020, 12:23 PM
 
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Is that like the Huk's in the Phillipines?
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Old 12-19-2020, 01:05 PM
 
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Is that like the Huk's in the Phillipines?
No, not at all. Huks were communist guerilla fighters in the Philippines.

Ainu's were the original indigenous people of northernmost Japan (Hokkaido island) and the adjacent Sakhalin and Kuril islands (Russian Pacific region). As mainstream Japanese culture and language spread to Hokkaido, it increasingly crowded out the vestiges of Ainu culture, and the Ainu intermarried with mainstream Japanese and were absorbed into their society. There are now an estimated 25,000 Ainu left.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people

Ainu men, among other things, have bodily hair (unlike all other East Asians, who tend to have none).

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Old 12-19-2020, 02:25 PM
 
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The wikipedia article mentioned above has a tremendous amount of (to me) very complex information about the genetics. Here are a few YouTube videos that may be of general interest--


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjBYtYAOsJc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFohbr7ALeQ
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Old 12-19-2020, 03:27 PM
 
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The Wikipedia article seems to have a lot of information under the Genetics section. I don't know of any commercial DNA test with specific data on this population, and it doesn't look like Gedmatch has any admixture/oracle calculators with this population. I would check the sources cited on the Wikipedia page for further reading, there's seem to be several studies done on this, and they are mostly available to read online.
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Old 12-19-2020, 04:32 PM
 
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I recall some archaeological findings of probably 60+ years ago when I was in HS involving some evidence of Jomon contact with the western-most parts of Ecuador around 3000 BC. This was based on pottery styles that suddenly appear with no precursor that matched styles in Japan. It was speculative and such an outlier that it was not given much attention. They speculated that a fishing boat drifted from southern Japan, past Alaska and North America, and came ashore near Valdivia by Guayaquil, Ecuador. Decades later there was an unrelated DNA study of indigenous people in South America and a couple remote groups in the interior near Ecuador surprisingly turned up with some minor genetic markers consistent with ancient Japanese ancestry. I'm reporting from memory so I'll see if I can find a link. Wikipedia touches on the original finds under 'Valdivia Culture'.

Edit...Look here: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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