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Old 12-19-2009, 03:37 PM
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Sorry. It sounded to me like you might not be aware.

I've got a few "underground" relatives listed there too.
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Old 12-19-2009, 08:05 PM
 
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Sorry. It sounded to me like you might not be aware.

I've got a few "underground" relatives listed there too.
lol....naw, I was just saying (in as few words as possible) that my relatives on my grandfathers side (the ones I haven't met and still alive), I actually came across through the memorials they have set up on there themselves and with all the ones they do have, my grandfather isn't one of them and when I asked about him, they wouldn't tell me anything. With all the cousins and an aunt doing the same research and for years at that, someone has to know by now where he is buried. But I've decided to just order the certificate of death myself, I didn't think I could since it wasn't online and wasn't exactly sure what county he died in. But I was told by the vital records office that a dc is not available to the public for the first 25 yrs without first applying and paying a fee for it. But I think it's worth it and I'm sure I'll have to do it again later anyway in order to find others.

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Old 12-20-2009, 04:09 PM
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Sounds interesting. A family mystery.
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Old 01-01-2010, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Southeast Missouri
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My great-great-grandmother was named Artie. She was born 1861 in Missouri (Maybe Shannon county? Probably Southeast Missouri anyway) and died in 1930 in Missouri. She had 2 kids that I know of, Katherine Jackson and Clarence Jackson.

Katherine was born in 1885 in Missouri and died in 1940 in Chicago. She married a Sam Lee.
Clarence Jackson was born in 1894 in Wayne county, Missouri and died in 1990 in Missouri.

I need the name of Katherine and Clarence's father. All Clarence would ever say is that his father died when he was very young. The 1900 Census shows Artie with her 2 kids, no husband listed. I can't find an 1880 Census for Artie or Katherine.

I do not know for sure that Artie was even married, but I assume she was. Jackson was probably her married name.

There is no 1890 Missouri Census. It was destroyed by a fire. There is an 1890 Veterans Census, but I doubt it would help.

I know this isn't much to go on, but if I could find a death record for Katherine Jackson (married name Lee) in 1940 in Chicago, it might have some info. I already have Artie's death certificate. It doesn't tell me anything about her parents. Artie's husband probably died between 1894 (when his son was born) and 1900 (when the census records that he is not there). I would also venture to guess that Artie and her husband were probably married about between 1875-1885. That's an estimate. They lived in Wayne county, Missouri. The 1880 Census might help, if they were married by then.

So, Kate Jackson Lee's death certificate, a marriage record, the 1880 census, death records for Wayne county Missouri for "Jackson" between 1894 and 1900, anything like that would be very much appreciated. If the info is just not there I appreciate the effort anyway. I

have found an 1880 Census record in Butler county, Missouri of an Artie Jackson that was born in 1860 in Missouri. She was single then. That may be her. I'm not sure. It's on FamilySearch, so I can't actually view it. She was a housekeeper. Her relationship to head-of-household is listed as "other." But if that is my Artie Jackson, that would mean Jackson is her maiden name, which is unlikely.

And Clarence Jackson married Pearl May Loyd (1899-1961). They had 9 kids.

The 1910 Census (which I see the preview of) shows Artie, age 49, and Clarence, age 16. Kate must have been married by then. Not sure if Artie would be in any 1930 Census records. She died in March of 1930.

Here's Artie's death certificate.
http://www.sos.mo.gov/TIF2PDFConsume...Fln=590244.pdf
It shows her being 61 years old, which would make her born in 1869. So there is an inconsistency there, by my great-grandfather may have been guessing or just wasn't sure when he filled out the death certificate.

Thank you very much.

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Old 01-01-2010, 10:10 PM
 
Location: In the Pearl of the Purchase, Ky
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Thank you so much for offering this. I need help finding my grandfather. My family is being very elusive about him and his past. I don't know what the deal is. I never met him and know very little about him. I can't even find his grave site on FindaGrave.com which is very strange considering I found his other family members there and THEY won't even help me. Pretty rude and makes me wonder as well. I don't understand the point in geneaology if you have no interest in getting to know your own father's or grandfather's grandchild. All I do know is his date of birth, where he lived, how he died, the date he died on, and the county. Yet, with all that, I haven't been able to find his death certificate or where he is buried.

Anyone? someone? Please?

Thanks
The first thing I would do is contact the library in the town where he died/lived and ask them to look up an obit for you. There may be a charge but shouldn't be too much. If that doesn't work I would try and obtain his death certificate and that should give you where he is buried. If you know the state he died in, you might get his death certificate from the office of vital statistics. A lot of states has some death certificates online for earlier years but not the more recent one. If you want you can give me the information and I will look for you. As far as find a grave, it may be that no one has entered his memorial and that is why you can not find it. Here are a couple websites you can check out.

RootsWeb.com Home Page
Free Genealogy and Family History Online - The USGenWeb Project
www.ancestry.com...you can search some records for free
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This was from my wife, who has been doing genealogy work on her family and many many others for over 35 years. I let her read what you were looking for and she sat down here to reply. Just DM me if you want to.
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Old 01-02-2010, 05:34 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Sorry, I couldn't find any of the specific records you're looking for and I think Wayne County death records are not available on ancestry.com. Sorry I can't be more help!

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My great-great-grandmother was named Artie. She was born 1861 in Missouri (Maybe Shannon county? Probably Southeast Missouri anyway) and died in 1930 in Missouri. She had 2 kids that I know of, Katherine Jackson and Clarence Jackson.

Katherine was born in 1885 in Missouri and died in 1940 in Chicago. She married a Sam Lee.
Clarence Jackson was born in 1894 in Wayne county, Missouri and died in 1990 in Missouri.

I need the name of Katherine and Clarence's father. All Clarence would ever say is that his father died when he was very young. The 1900 Census shows Artie with her 2 kids, no husband listed. I can't find an 1880 Census for Artie or Katherine.

I do not know for sure that Artie was even married, but I assume she was. Jackson was probably her married name.

There is no 1890 Missouri Census. It was destroyed by a fire. There is an 1890 Veterans Census, but I doubt it would help.

I know this isn't much to go on, but if I could find a death record for Katherine Jackson (married name Lee) in 1940 in Chicago, it might have some info. I already have Artie's death certificate. It doesn't tell me anything about her parents. Artie's husband probably died between 1894 (when his son was born) and 1900 (when the census records that he is not there). I would also venture to guess that Artie and her husband were probably married about between 1875-1885. That's an estimate. They lived in Wayne county, Missouri. The 1880 Census might help, if they were married by then.

So, Kate Jackson Lee's death certificate, a marriage record, the 1880 census, death records for Wayne county Missouri for "Jackson" between 1894 and 1900, anything like that would be very much appreciated. If the info is just not there I appreciate the effort anyway. I

have found an 1880 Census record in Butler county, Missouri of an Artie Jackson that was born in 1860 in Missouri. She was single then. That may be her. I'm not sure. It's on FamilySearch, so I can't actually view it. She was a housekeeper. Her relationship to head-of-household is listed as "other." But if that is my Artie Jackson, that would mean Jackson is her maiden name, which is unlikely.

And Clarence Jackson married Pearl May Loyd (1899-1961). They had 9 kids.

The 1910 Census (which I see the preview of) shows Artie, age 49, and Clarence, age 16. Kate must have been married by then. Not sure if Artie would be in any 1930 Census records. She died in March of 1930.

Here's Artie's death certificate.
http://www.sos.mo.gov/TIF2PDFConsume...Fln=590244.pdf
It shows her being 61 years old, which would make her born in 1869. So there is an inconsistency there, by my great-grandfather may have been guessing or just wasn't sure when he filled out the death certificate.

Thank you very much.
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Old 01-11-2010, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Pittsburgh
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i'm looking for information on my grandfather who was born in mexico. the only thing that comes up is his death record from 1956. His name was Martin Morales Rangel from San Francisco del Rincon Guanajuato Mexico. Born in 1899 in Mexico and died in 1956 in aliquippa pennsylvania.

thanks so much
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Old 01-30-2010, 06:35 AM
 
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Default Italy/Sicily records

Does anyone have ability to search for records in Sicily? I have hit a brick wall on g-grandparents that migrated to US from Italy. Or does anyone have some ideas how can find information?
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Old 02-03-2010, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Baywood Park
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Gertrude Broughton born in Wisconsin. Late 1800's or early 1900's
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Old 02-04-2010, 03:00 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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RRANGEL - I couldn't find anything, sorry
Ellwood, I don't think Sicilian records are available on ancestry.com - maybe this will help though: Sicilian Genealogy - Genealogical & Genetic Research in Sicily - Sicilian Genealogists - Sicilian Family History - Genetic Genealogy in Sicily - Sicilian Genetic Genealogy - Best of Sicily

CA central coast - do you have any other info? Is Broughton her maiden name? There are several matches but they all appear to be her married name, not maiden name.
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