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Old 12-02-2018, 07:23 PM
 
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It happens a lot. It's why when older people are considering relocating, they're often advised to rent a year or two before buying to make sure they really like the place. Luckily, you rented, so you have little to lose by moving back to PDX.

I made one move that didn't quite work for me. When I went into semi-retirement in 2010, I could work part-time telecommuting from home, so I moved from Davis, CA to Port Townsend, WA. PT is a charming waterfront town, but after living there a couple years, I became increasingly aware that the lack of shopping for necessities meant driving 45 minutes to Sequim or Silverdale, the hassle of getting to the airport, the lack of specialist medical care which meant my friend's husband had to go to a hospital 45 minutes away when he was dying, and other issues around how isolated the place is, weren't going to work out for me long-term as a single person with no relatives there. So I moved to Olympia where I have all those things and am closer to my son, who lives in Portland, and am much more comfortable here.

I go back to visit my friend a few times a year, and every time I visit her, I'm glad I moved. Truly a case of "a nice place to visit but I wouldn't want to live there" for me.
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Old 12-02-2018, 11:28 PM
 
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It is definitely harder to make friends. Then again, New Yorkers have good reasons to be guarded. My daughter lives NYC. She came into NYC with an established group. Her friends are from her college or our suburban town.

Without a trust fund, it is a hard place to live. It didn't use to be like that. Many NYC neighborhoods used to be middle class, like Sunnyside or Woodside Queens and Midwood, Brooklyn. The NYC real estate market has gone crazy. It is heartbreaking.

We looked at Portland for retirement. It looks like a great place to live. Smaller than NYC, cheaper than NYC, and much more manageable.

Brooklyn is a big place. What part of Brooklyn did you live?
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Old 12-03-2018, 06:15 AM
 
Location: Greenville, SC
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NYC has plenty of healthy food options. One just needs to know where to look!

NYC has a public transportation system that covers most of the city and there are plenty of attractions for those on a low budget if one is willing doing things on their own.
Yes- what I was going to say. My daughter and SIL live on the Upper East Side and while I agree with all of the OP's comments about noise and crowding, there are plenty of healthy eating options in NY. I can walk to Central Park from there- free- and there are so many museums that are free or inexpensive. When I lived there years ago I enjoyed all of the street festivals and music, also free. I enjoyed not having to drive and be responsible for the maintenance of a car, as well.
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Old 12-03-2018, 06:44 AM
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Thank you!

I actually took the metro north up to Manitou a few weeks ago and hiked Anthony's Nose. Just in time to see the fall colors. It was a beautiful hike and a really enjoyable day trip in general. I definitely agree that somewhere in upstate might be a better fit for me, but am really focused on getting school finished at the moment. I do have a friend at Bard that I'd like to go visit this summer so maybe I'll get some more time to explore the area then!!
I would suggest getting up to Niagara Falls before you leave NY State! Amtrak is a convenient way to do so.
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Old 12-03-2018, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Thank God for DIXIE !
LOL.
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Old 12-03-2018, 07:42 AM
 
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Yes- what I was going to say. My daughter and SIL live on the Upper East Side and while I agree with all of the OP's comments about noise and crowding, there are plenty of healthy eating options in NY. I can walk to Central Park from there- free- and there are so many museums that are free or inexpensive. When I lived there years ago I enjoyed all of the street festivals and music, also free. I enjoyed not having to drive and be responsible for the maintenance of a car, as well.
Depends on whether OP is. The Upper East side in Manhattan is the heart of NYC, and would be completely different from the outer boroughs. There are areas of Brooklyn, like along Ocean Parkway in Gravesend or Bed Stuy, which have food deserts.
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Old 12-03-2018, 11:56 AM
 
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Depends on whether OP is. The Upper East side in Manhattan is the heart of NYC, and would be completely different from the outer boroughs. There are areas of Brooklyn, like along Ocean Parkway in Gravesend or Bed Stuy, which have food deserts.
Bed Stuy is not a food desert, it is rapidly gentrifying with more and more food establishments opening up. Also, the existing Caribbean food options can be healthy depending on what you order.

I'm less familiar with Gravesend but I doubt it's really a food desert either. It's a very diverse neighborhood with all sorts of cuisines to try.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:11 PM
 
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The charm, the thrill, the romance and excitement that was buzzing around NYC has long gone. We get a lot of tourists that come here for a few days and fall in love with the bright lights, sky scrapers, huge city, diversity and fall in love. Once you stick around for a few months the true warts of this city show. The people here are very rude, shallow, inconsiderate and self-centered. As someone who lived in New York City on and off for 30+ years I can tell you that it has gotten much worse over the past few decades.

This is a city that will eat you then spit you out. Just about every transplant that I befriended came here to start their careers and once they got established they moved out. They realized in a very short time that this city is one big eye wash. Yes there are millions of people here but they keep to themselves. Good friends are very hard to find and it can be very lonely here, even with all of these people. Unless you come here with a group of friends it will hard to find new ones. You will get depressed real quick.

Everything is becoming corporate and catered to the wealthy. Even if you come with a lot of money that's no guarantee it will bring you happiness. The Subway systems is terrible. There are homeless and degenerative people everywhere. It smells awful. All of the night clubs and the once famous NYC nightlife is gone. If the OP came out here in the early/mid 90's maybe you would have had a different and positive experience.

I highly encourage any person foolish enough to move to this filth ridden, unwelcoming and over crowded city to reconsider.



Consider this a lesson learned OP.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:32 PM
 
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Also, the East Coast sucks, because it is a very work oriented place. People do not live a fun lifestyle on the East Coast. People just work, live a ho-hum lifestyle, shop at Costco on the weekends, and get fat. West Coast is the better coast where you can actually have a life. East Coast is more "you live to work", while the West Coast is more "you work to live".
That is not remotely true. What OP says about NYC is something I've seen said about it many times now, but that is simply not true of the whole east coast.

What condescending hogwash, actually. I don't currently live in a city (though I have lived in Baltimore and Philadelphia), but I've known plenty of people who live a fun lifestyle in both cities and suburbs. I'm sorry that was not your experience.
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Old 12-03-2018, 12:39 PM
 
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I'm glad that I gave the East Coast a try, but the West Coast definitely offers a much more laid back lifestyle.
Don't confuse NYC with all of the East coast. What you experienced is really only a NYC thing. Take Philly, for example. MUUUUUCH more laid back. You'd probably like West Philly. Plenty of people making art and music just for the hell of it, not to try to catch some agent's eye/ear. And it's fairly "tree'd" for a city area. But does still have a lack of proximity to large swaths of wood.

Anyway, just saying: all of the East coast is not New York. Only New York is New York.
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