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View Poll Results: Do you think America will ever have the tallest skyscraper again?
Yes 34 30.91%
No 76 69.09%
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:27 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Originally Posted by DTO Luv View Post
I think Chicago would be our best bet since they seem to care more about having that title within their city for having Sears dominate for so long.
I only see egotistical Chicago as craving the tallest in this country, not the world. NYC is a constant thorn in Chicago's side, ever-vigilant NYC is going to build something taller.

If the tallest building in NYC was only 1100 feet back in the early 70's, Chicago would have been just as proud of the Sears Tower at 1200 feet.

Now comes the Freedom Tower. Chicago ain't gonna take that sitting down for long, even if they have to turn the Spire into an observation tower, build a 2000 foot inverted baseball bat or a 2500 foot statue of Mayor Daley on the lakefront.
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:35 AM
 
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Now comes the Freedom Tower. Chicago ain't gonna take that sitting down for long, even if they have to turn the Spire into an observation tower, build a 2000 foot inverted baseball bat or a 2500 foot statue of Mayor Daley on the lakefront.
The problem is that Chicago has one of the worst real estate markets in the country. There are thousands of virtually worthless condos in and around downtown.

The only way Chicago gets the tallest building in the U.S. is if they build a giant toothpick or something. They need an economic recovery, and that will take years, or even decades.

NYC, in contrast, has a strong economy, and is currently building tons of highrises. Houston, Dallas, and a number of other cities also have strong economies, and are probably good long-term bets for new towers.
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:39 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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It is also easier to build one if you are in an autoritarian/totalitarian state as well.
Having read Stalin's biography this past summer, I recall reading that he had proposed the tallest skyscraper in the world to replace some famous cathedral in Moscow, some 1600 feet or more.

But the ground/soil was tested and it proved too unstable to build such a structure back in the 30's.

Now! If master-builder Hitler had succeeded in taking over Europe, and his dreams of reducing the entirety of London and Moscow to rubble, he may have built a building, back then, which would have made the Empire State building resemble a telephone booth!

He was a daydream builder. He'd do his sketches of buildings, and what the city would look like after he decimated it.

I'm really surprised that Castro or, particularly Chavez in Caracas, hasn't built the tallest. Nudge! Nudge!
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:47 AM
 
Location: Tucson/Nogales
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Supertalls are vanity projects designed to advertize the city.
Since the U.S. started this skyscraper vanity craze, we still have a chance of being a leader in vanity projects, of a low level nature. Extremely expensive stuff I'm talking about, like the World Trade Center transit hub designed by Calatrava or how about that Calatrava jewel that sits on the lakefront in Milwaukee?

That building is so interestingly awesome, your eyes never travel upwards while you're there looking for tall buildings in the city.
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Old 01-05-2011, 12:57 AM
 
Location: On the Rails in Northern NJ
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I say yes , but only in one of the Northeastern Megapolis's Cities.....where space will become limited in the coming decades.....and the region will start to build upwards. Theres debate that it could be NYC , Philly or Jersey City due to the laxed Height limits....
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Austin, Texas
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Nope........... Sadly America cares more about Sprawl.
Lol, and you think the other countries with the top skyscrapers care about the precious density so many of you on here go on about? Most of those skyscrapers are in the middle of nowhere and surrounded by next to nothing that is substantial.

Besides, skyscrapers don't equal density anyway.
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:24 AM
 
Location: Out in the Badlands
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Nope........... Sadly America cares more about Sprawl.
and political correctness.
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Old 01-05-2011, 03:15 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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The problem is that Chicago has one of the worst real estate markets in the country. There are thousands of virtually worthless condos in and around downtown.

The only way Chicago gets the tallest building in the U.S. is if they build a giant toothpick or something. They need an economic recovery, and that will take years, or even decades.

NYC, in contrast, has a strong economy, and is currently building tons of highrises. Houston, Dallas, and a number of other cities also have strong economies, and are probably good long-term bets for new towers.
Lies.

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I only see egotistical Chicago as craving the tallest in this country, not the world. NYC is a constant thorn in Chicago's side, ever-vigilant NYC is going to build something taller.

If the tallest building in NYC was only 1100 feet back in the early 70's, Chicago would have been just as proud of the Sears Tower at 1200 feet.

Now comes the Freedom Tower. Chicago ain't gonna take that sitting down for long, even if they have to turn the Spire into an observation tower, build a 2000 foot inverted baseball bat or a 2500 foot statue of Mayor Daley on the lakefront.
The Sears Tower is technically taller then the Freedom tower.
Roof to roof
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Old 01-05-2011, 08:18 PM
 
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Lies.
Chicago has the nations's greatest decline in residential property values in 2010, per the Case-Shiller Residential Index (the foremost index of U.S. property values).
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The Sears Tower is technically taller then the Freedom tower.
Roof to roof.
Uh, that's not how buildings are measured. They're measured to the top of the building, not the roof of the highest occupied floor.

Your idea would make no sense. It would mean that a 10-foot structure would be taller than a 1000-foot structure, as long as there were no occupiable space in the 1000-foot structure.

And if you only counted occupied floors, then you would basically have to knock 25% off the height of every highrise in Chicago, since they generally are about 25% above-ground parking.
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