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The Mason-Dixon Line and all that is really beside the point. I visited Fells Point, the "hip" neighborhood, and yet still there was a sea of mullets, and pronunciations like "faar" for fire (pretty much the most basic aspect of a Southern accent). And, just to clarify, this was mainly among white people. So I would attribute all of this, along with the infamous "hon" culture, to Southernness, not to the large black population.
Ever noticed that old-time Marylanders say "ray-oad" for road, just like they do in Georgia? And "ay-ohs" for the Orioles?
That's not Southern. I don't know what it is. It sounds more California surfer dude than Southern.
Well I know someone from Georgia with a strong Southern accent, who says her "o"s that way, but maybe it's a coincidence. Maybe it descends directly from the English colonies, since they do say it that way across the pond.
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The Mason-Dixon Line and all that is really beside the point. I visited Fells Point, the "hip" neighborhood, and yet still there was a sea of mullets, and pronunciations like "faar" for fire (pretty much the most basic aspect of a Southern accent). And, just to clarify, this was mainly among white people. So I would attribute all of this, along with the infamous "hon" culture, to Southernness, not to the large black population.
Ever noticed that old-time Marylanders say "ray-oad" for road, just like they do in Georgia? And "ay-ohs" for the Orioles?
I have never noticed that at all....I know now nobody who pronounces Orioles in that manner or railroad like that, even in the state of Georgia. If you think "faar" is a basic aspect of the southern accent, that pronunciation extends above the Mason-Dixon line, and not always is it accompanied by a southern accent. "Faar" has to be accompanied by "y'all", "I'm fixin'", i pronounced is "ah", an emphasis on the o's, etc. Regardless, dialect maps don't agree with your findings. I myself have been to both Maryland and Baltimore...what I heard was more South Midland than Southern...there were some southern influences, but not nearly enough that i'd call it a southern accent.
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Baltimore needs some Waffle Houses. Until then, it's just not southern enough.
I'm not sure Waffle Houses are going to make it any more southern. Waffle Houses have been numerous in number north of the Mason-Dixon line for a long time now. Ohio, for example, has 64 located in the entire state, with a good chunk concentrated in the Northern part. I'm not sure it's possible for Baltimore to become southern at this point unless southerners invade it like northerners invaded florida.
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*drool*
She can say whatever she wants as far as I'm concerned! As long as she lets me....uh...talk to her.
Apologies to the Ladies out there.....Old Dirty Man comin' through!
LOL, i'm loving this just as much as you, and i'm not old or dirty This woman is Elizabeth Banks, and yes, she is fiiine. SHe is from Pittsfield, Massachusetts, so yeah, this proves an EXCELLENT point. Ears can often play tricks on us...just because somebody sounds southern doesn't mean you're actually hearing a southern accent, or that they are from the south. She was in "40 Year Old Virgin" and "Role Models." She's a famous actress. Here's an article about her.
I'm not sure Waffle Houses are going to make it any more southern. Waffle Houses have been numerous in number north of the Mason-Dixon line for a long time now. Ohio, for example, has 64 located in the entire state, with a good chunk concentrated in the Northern part. I'm not sure it's possible for Baltimore to become southern at this point unless southerners invade it like northerners invaded florida.
Funny thing is that southerners invaded Baltimore in the early to mid 1900's (the great migration), but Baltimore was considered less southern after they've arrived .
Funny thing is that southerners invaded Baltimore in the early to mid 1900's (the great migration), but Baltimore was considered less southern after they've arrived .
Exactly. A lot of people fail to realize a lot of "northern" cities (however you want to use that term) have a lot of southern influences in them from the southern migration.
Funny thing is that southerners invaded Baltimore in the early to mid 1900's (the great migration), but Baltimore was considered less southern after they've arrived .
Its an odd circumstance but yes that's what eventually happened overtime!
for a little while Gettysburg PA was the northernmost southern city
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