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Old 08-17-2010, 09:06 AM
 
Location: Denver
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Good. I live in the Atlanta area, and the only "liberal" (Democrat) areas are in the black and other non-white communities, with the exception of a very small liberal white area, relatively to the rest of the metro.
Well with all due respect, wouldn't saying the "only" liberal areas mean there are only a few areas that are like that?

The Atlanta MSA is 53.2% non-hispanic white and 31.2% black and 9.6% hispanic/latino. So wouldn't that mean the Atlanta area is about half liberal? (At least using your reasoning that all blacks and latinos are liberal--which they aren't)
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Old 08-17-2010, 01:44 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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50 replies later and I must concede that I made this post in satire of all the "Looking for a liberal, walkable, organic neighborhood" posts I see around here. In reality I like vibrant, pedestrian-friendly cities with plenty of odd ethnic dining options (and hence immigrants), and if I was relocating, my ideal city would be starkly different from the description I gave in the first post. So many people on here are young, professional types searching for their liberal utopia, yet just as many people -- albeit usually not on here -- are looking for a city with the characteristics I described in my original post. I was very surprised at the rather subdued, calm, and helpful responses. I thought I'd be shot down right away faster than somebody asking "What's your favorite Olive Garden dish?" on a gourmet food board, but no.

I thought I'd see a lot of Oklahoma responses. The responses I did get were not surprising, though - places in Texas, the South, and Colorado.
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Old 08-17-2010, 03:05 PM
 
Location: 30-40°N 90-100°W
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People can be surprising. Also sometimes when you think someone is weird you might actually be more polite to them, or at least as polite, because you fear setting them off.

Like I seem to remember one poster, sincerely I think, asking where he could find a place without black people. I said I was hesitant, but I looked through some sources and tried to find locations. However in part I did that because I was thinking maybe black people shouldn't have to be bothered by this guy's presence. However that's a bit paternalistic so I did have some concerns in doing it.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Actually, Odessa or Lubbock Texas would fit his description. Both cities are VERY White, and are medium sized. (I listed a lot of Conservative cities above)
Lubbock is a third Hispanic, 10% Black, and the Asian population has doubled since the last census from about 2% to 4%. What people don't understand about Lubbock's conservatism is that it's far more fiscal than social. It is a fairly religious place, but people respect other cultures and religions, or at least I haven't heard any complaints from my Hindu and Muslim friends. It's a college town, so it has a growing liberal presence. I consider myself politically independent, so I appreciate that it's becoming increasingly moderate.

Where Lubbock does fit in the OP's faux request is in the country radio stations (thank God for Pandora Radio for iPhone), pickup trucks (the qualifiers to this are that they are actually used for farming, not for compensation and Lubbock, I believe, has the most hybrids per capita in Texas behind Austin), and low cost of living/low taxes.

I think it's funny that this board has such a skew that some members argue almost to the tone of "my city is better than yours because it's more liberal." I've seen people on here (who I suspect have never even had experience with conservatives) trash places as being "close-minded" or "uneducated" because they voted red in the presidential election. Whatever.

I suppose I don't fit what outsiders would expect from a native from one of the more red cities in the nation, but I have never felt anything but home here because the people are so friendly.
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Old 08-17-2010, 05:13 PM
 
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Well with all due respect, wouldn't saying the "only" liberal areas mean there are only a few areas that are like that?

The Atlanta MSA is 53.2% non-hispanic white and 31.2% black and 9.6% hispanic/latino. So wouldn't that mean the Atlanta area is about half liberal? (At least using your reasoning that all blacks and latinos are liberal--which they aren't)
I'm speaking of the white population.

The white population of metro Atlanta, I'd argue is probably at least 50% conservative, 35% moderate, and maybe fifteen percent liberal.

In reality, though, it could be as high as 70% conservative.

Blacks aren't as socially liberal as many believe. On many issues, they can be quite conservative, while others they are extremely liberal on. They tend to be more socially conservative on some issues, but tend to be economically socialist, by and large.

The Atlanta area would be about half Democrat, not necessarily half-liberal. On the other hand, the Atlanta area is about half-Republican, and likely at least sixty percent conservative, if true tests for ideology were given.
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Old 08-18-2010, 03:29 AM
 
Location: ST.James,NY
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what about garden grove,california or plano,texas?
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Old 08-18-2010, 03:40 AM
 
Location: 30-40°N 90-100°W
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what about garden grove,california or plano,texas?
You mean for conservative but not mostly white? Yeah that could work.
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Old 08-18-2010, 03:50 AM
 
Location: ST.James,NY
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isnt garden grove also really religious because of that church that is there robert schuiller or something?
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Old 08-18-2010, 08:56 PM
 
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Ha ha, very funny.
lol Conservatives don't really have to ask, they pretty much know. There are a lot of choices for them. It's America after all. lol
Social liberals only have MA, and well, MA. ha ha So we ask, just in case there is a place besides MA that we missed. ha ha
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Old 08-18-2010, 09:37 PM
 
Location: OKIE-Ville
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50 replies later and I must concede that I made this post in satire of all the "Looking for a liberal, walkable, organic neighborhood" posts I see around here. In reality I like vibrant, pedestrian-friendly cities with plenty of odd ethnic dining options (and hence immigrants), and if I was relocating, my ideal city would be starkly different from the description I gave in the first post. So many people on here are young, professional types searching for their liberal utopia, yet just as many people -- albeit usually not on here -- are looking for a city with the characteristics I described in my original post. I was very surprised at the rather subdued, calm, and helpful responses. I thought I'd be shot down right away faster than somebody asking "What's your favorite Olive Garden dish?" on a gourmet food board, but no.

I thought I'd see a lot of Oklahoma responses. The responses I did get were not surprising, though - places in Texas, the South, and Colorado.
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I thought I'd see a lot of Oklahoma responses. The responses I did get were not surprising, though - places in Texas, the South, and Colorado.
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Us Okies are generally a forgotten lot.....we prefer it that way.

We don't want too many folks moving to our state trying to shake things up. I mean who would really want to live in Oklahoma? We're just a bunch of toothless Okies sippin' back on some moonshine.........50 years behind everywhere else like other states in the South-Central!

Oklahoma has nothing to offer you so please don't move here.
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