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View Poll Results: Sprawl Vs. Congestion
I hate using a car 36 65.45%
I like my space 23 41.82%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 55. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 08-23-2010, 04:07 PM
 
Location: The City
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What is that? Does it have a happy ending?

well it depends on if you like to drive or not
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Old 08-23-2010, 04:10 PM
 
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Thanks for answering the random date question. I still want general answers for the original topic also just to be clear.
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:15 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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well a cab is one long red light

but will agree like everything else there are probably good and bad parts on both aspects

I grew up in the burbs so have experienced both lifestyles, the older i get the more I prefer my current but neither is perfect unfortunately

ah and the rain and snow are the best actually, took me a while to figure those aspects out (slow learner). Adapatabilty is key though whether walking, driving, or in a cab, that I think we will agree on that...
Absolutely, and I agree, the older I get the more I'll like things to be closer together, the easier things become. I think Miami is drastically becoming into a very linked city, where they're focusing on that walkability factor. Just the vibe I got from them recently.

I like both rain and snow, but not when I'm getting wet, I stopped wearing shoes in general because the places I've lived have dealt with a lot of rain, nothing feels worse than having wet socks... absolutely one of the worst feelings there is, in my opinion.

This is the most horrific case of Traffic I've ever heard of, an hour is long enough, but 9 days... could you imagine that:
China's nine-day traffic jam stretches 100km - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100823/sc_afp/chinaroadtraffic - broken link)
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Old 08-23-2010, 05:58 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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This is the most horrific case of Traffic I've ever heard of, an hour is long enough, but 9 days... could you imagine that:
China's nine-day traffic jam stretches 100km - Yahoo! News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100823/sc_afp/chinaroadtraffic - broken link)
Just saw this on the news and I am not surprised. I spent a good chunk of the 00s working/living in various cities around Asia. Americans today have no idea what bad traffic, high density, violent slums look like.
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Old 08-23-2010, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Just saw this on the news and I am not surprised. I spent a good chunk of the 00s working/living in various cities around Asia. Americans today have no idea what bad traffic, high density, violent slums look like.
I'm Indian/Singaporean dude, trust me it doesn't get worse than any city in India.

Have you ever been in a place where they honk for everything, there are cows on the roads, and the roads, well they don't have lanes and well I guess this video will explain what I mean best:
Cow:
YouTube - Cow On the Loose
Roads:
YouTube - WHO LEFT THEIR COW IN THE ROAD - INDIA
The annoying honks:
YouTube - Delhi Traffic and Roads (India)

And if anyone else here has been to any city or any place in India, they'll be able to relate. Everytime I go there, I come back home to say "Thank god for Houston! or Chicago! or (insert name of any American city here)".
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Old 08-23-2010, 06:27 PM
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Location: Queens, NY
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having dinner a 45 second walk from your house has benefits
this cannot be stated enough. heh.
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Old 08-23-2010, 09:06 PM
 
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I literally do like using my car and I literally do like my space. I like to have a massive house and a baller car and the opportunity to use it, because that is what it is for.

I also hate public transit, being around random people I don't know, some people who are annoying, some that aren't hygienically prepared for life, some of them that just randomly keep staring at you, and all the inconveniences you get of not being in charge of your own time. I'm sorry it is not my way of life, and you can't pay me enough to live life this way. In my opinion it is a terrible type of lifestyle. I just don't like crowded places, I don't like being around people that are weird, and theres always a few of them there... I just hate it, and I just simply hate how when its raining and you're using something like CTA that you're always at an inconvenience before and after you get on the train.

I don't mind traffic, gives me chance to play suduko on my phone, and possibly catch up with the lunch that I skipped earlier in the day. And did I mention, I like music control of my vehicle, I like air temperature control of my vehicle, I like being in control of my time, and I certainly love my car very much.
Sounds like you'd be happier in a small town or rural area.
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Old 08-23-2010, 09:10 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX/Chicago, IL/Houston, TX/Washington, DC
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Sounds like you'd be happier in a small town or rural area.
LOL no. Just in an auto-centric city with large freeways that resemble arteries, and a city with some massive skyline to drive by on a daily basis.

I do not do rural, but I don't like ultra dense. Low-moderate density, either that or wide and polished where people aren't literally a foot away from you while walking in downtown sidewalk after you are trying to recover from a headache or hangover.

I like space, but rural is too much. I need shops, I need multi-ethnic restaurants, public transit can be there, but I won't ever use it, I also like near coastal setting, and places with a good activities.

My ideal cities are pretty much everything in the sunbelt due to layout. Miami is the exception that I do not like by layout in sunbelt. Chicago is the exception that I do like that is not in sunbelt. I hate taking CTA though, theres drug looking weirdos everytime I've taken the train, and in my opinion its a hassle. Thank god for water taxis & wide roadways downtown and easy walkable areas where people aren't all up in your ear with their damn annoying trash like talk, its spaced out yet still lively. I find it ideal.
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Old 08-23-2010, 09:23 PM
 
Location: The Greatest city on Earth: City of Atlanta Proper
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I'm Indian/Singaporean dude, trust me it doesn't get worse than any city in India.

Have you ever been in a place where they honk for everything, there are cows on the roads, and the roads, well they don't have lanes and well I guess this video will explain what I mean best:
Cow:
YouTube - Cow On the Loose
Roads:
YouTube - WHO LEFT THEIR COW IN THE ROAD - INDIA
The annoying honks:
YouTube - Delhi Traffic and Roads (India)

And if anyone else here has been to any city or any place in India, they'll be able to relate. Everytime I go there, I come back home to say "Thank god for Houston! or Chicago! or (insert name of any American city here)".
Oh I know. I've spent plenty of time in Mumbai. I was late to work on several occasions due to traffic caused by the following:

-Herd of cattle
-Herd of water buffalo
-A baby elephant
-A full grown adult elephant
-Herd of goats

I'm totally cool with the concept of not killing animals, but it was more than annoying when I was 30 minutes late for a meeting. The one cool thing though I could say is that I never once saw an accident there...kind of a minor miracle the way people drive/run out into the street/random herds of livestock. :P
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Old 08-23-2010, 11:12 PM
 
Location: New York
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This was my commute (one way) for 6 years:

Bus: 1:00 - 1:30

Car: 0:15 - 0:30

And 95% of the time I had to take the bus. Public Transportation (minus the LIRR) in Queens is a joke compared to driving. Sure I'd love to stand up on 2 very slow buses that are illegally packed to the brim for over an hour, lol are you serious.

I do prefer sprawl over walkability, I like space. I've never really lived in a walkable area, even in NYC it was like a 10+ minute walk to the closest store which was a 99 cent store (which closed in 2009).
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