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Old 10-13-2010, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I'm kinda upset that more people haven't posted an opinion....

 
Old 10-13-2010, 05:50 PM
 
Location: GA-TX
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Pretty much. I don't consider myself black in the traditional sense. I'm of (partial) African descent, so I'm "black," but I don't identify with black culture. People still see me as black, however, so I still feel the need to identify with blacks in some way -- and so I still feel compelled to comment on black issues. That doesn't mean I see blacks as "beneath me" or anything, just that I have a different cultural background because of my upbringing.
So all black people have the same cultural background? You can't be serious. Also, what is "black culture". I am black and I there is one, but maybe you know better?
 
Old 10-13-2010, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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Are you saying there is no black, or more precisely, African-American culture? Of course there is.

African American culture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Old 10-13-2010, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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I'm kinda upset that more people haven't posted an opinion....
im kind of upset that that your non colored self has looked into the thread that shows well to do black areas all over the country.

can you admit that you refuse to because you obviously have an agenda being on this forum.
 
Old 10-13-2010, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Houston
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im kind of upset that that your non colored self has looked into the thread that shows well to do black areas all over the country.

can you admit that you refuse to because you obviously have an agenda being on this forum.
I thought you wanted me to look into that thread....
 
Old 10-13-2010, 06:12 PM
 
Location: GA-TX
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Are you saying there is no black, or more precisely, African-American culture? Of course there is.

African American culture - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This just tells history. This does not tell us what makes you different from other blacks. Clarify what makes you different. How did you escape the history that wiki article is talking about and put all other Blacks in a box?
 
Old 10-13-2010, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY $$$
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I thought you wanted me to look into that thread....
yessir and it was a typo. but all you show is ignorance until you have the balls to admit your wrong and look into the thread you just like plain goofy till then.
 
Old 10-13-2010, 06:20 PM
 
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Pretty much. I don't consider myself black in the traditional sense. I'm of (partial) African descent, so I'm "black," but I don't identify with black culture. People still see me as black, however, so I still feel the need to identify with blacks in some way -- and so I still feel compelled to comment on black issues. That doesn't mean I see blacks as "beneath me" or anything, just that I have a different cultural background because of my upbringing.
You know I am big enough apologize for coming down so hard on you, but my only issue is the fact that you seem to always chime in on these types of discussions that depict AA's in a negative manner. I don't deny that some of the issues noted do indeed exist, but they're vastly overstated by the OP to instigate trouble.

Then here you come agreeing with that foolish rhetoric. That may be your experience (which I have no problem with since noone knows your life better than you) but this statement:

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Pretty much. While there are a few exceptions (Cascade in Atlanta, Country Club Hills, IL, Prince Georges County MD, etc.) the vast majority black neighborhoods are pretty ghetto and have high crime rates. It's not politically correct to say it, but it's the truth.

However, plenty of middle-class integrated cities and neighborhoods are safe.

As to the why? Sociologists have tried to answer that question for years. I think it's a combination of social, cultural and economic factors.
....is just a flat-out lie.

Maybe that is the type of environment that you are more familiar with, but not me. You need to stray away from generalizations of this nature. Speak for yourself; I didn't experience a true "ghetto" until I was almost out of high school. You admittedly don't identify with blacks or embrace AA culture as your own, but seem to pop in whenever mud slinging opportunities arise. That is what it often appears, hence the reason posters attack you the way they do. They're offended by some of your statements and generalizations about a culture that you don't even embrace as your own.
 
Old 10-13-2010, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Southern Minnesota
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I post on most "black" threads, negative and positive. I stay away from ones that I really can't relate to at all, such as the city vs. city thread on "best hip-hop" (I don't listen to rap), but I comment on most others, even if it embraces blacks and black culture in a positive light.

As far as the second one, maybe it's different in the South, but in the Midwest, black neighborhoods tend to be crime-ridden. The south side of Chicago, the north side of Kalamazoo, the north side of Minneapolis, the Phillips neighborhood in Minneapolis, the east side of St. Paul, virtually all of Gary, IN, Flint and Detroit, etc. I can't think of very many Midwestern predominately-black areas that would be considered "nice" (Vandalia, MI, Lathrup Village, MI, Olympia Village, IL and Country Club Hills, IL are the only ones I can think of).
 
Old 10-13-2010, 06:40 PM
 
Location: St Paul, MN - NJ's Gold Coast
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Pretty much. I don't consider myself black in the traditional sense. I'm of (partial) African descent, so I'm "black," but I don't identify with black culture. People still see me as black, however, so I still feel the need to identify with blacks in some way -- and so I still feel compelled to comment on black issues. That doesn't mean I see blacks as "beneath me" or anything, just that I have a different cultural background because of my upbringing.
What the hell do you mean "Black culture"?
I'm white, but there's no white culture to follow. There's always going to be stereotypes (I'm an Italian American from NJ, What comes to mind?? Tony soprano or Snooki?) You don't say "Well I don't consider myself XYZ" because of what the American media banks off of- That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Just be proud and be who you are, you seemed ashamed to be black.

Black "Culture" really just means black history. The Thug scene is predominately black because they're rooted from the urban black ghettos- Just like trailer trash comes from white ghettos. If you want to consider that "culture" than you're not thinking logically.

I've said it before in this thread, but I don't think you got the message. This nation is a robbed nation, robbed by the Europeans. Europeans came here with opportunities and gained wealth for generations- Blacks were forced here, put into slavery and weren't aloud to get an education. Families were broken apart, they were riddle with poverty, and they were hated and treated like animals. You don't expect the black communities to be happy places, crime was always in their communities because of the history. It's possible for blacks to overcome the ghetto, but it's the damn truth that many of them feel that "where they come from" is all they're worth, so a lot of them never amount to anything. (especially in a society where wealth runs everything)- It's a cycle, poverty breeds poverty.
It's getting better, but until the "thug/ghetto" mentality is shaken off, the black community will always be at the bottom of the bucket.

I've had a long term relationship with a black girl, I lived around black people all my life, and I'm not a racist. There's nothing you can do about the past, stop blaming the entire black race.
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