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Obvious top 3 is Detroit, Minneapolis, and St Louis.
#4 is a debate between Indianapolis, Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati and Kansas City. You could use whatever arbitrary reason to argue each one deserves it (GDP, S&P Companies, growth, population, whatever).
Obvious top 3 is Detroit, Minneapolis, and St Louis.
#4 is a debate between Indianapolis, Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati and Kansas City. You could use whatever arbitrary reason to argue each one deserves it (GDP, S&P Companies, growth, population, whatever).
I agree with you completely, but would also add Pittsburgh to the #4 mix
Obvious top 3 is Detroit, Minneapolis, and St Louis.
#4 is a debate between Indianapolis, Columbus, Cleveland, Cincinnati and Kansas City. You could use whatever arbitrary reason to argue each one deserves it (GDP, S&P Companies, growth, population, whatever).
St Louis doesn't even have an NFL team these days.
St Louis doesn't even have an NFL team these days.
that's true. Does kind of make it a bit of a hick town. StL is pretty much a backwater, sort of the Los Angeles of the Midwest. Scratch that. LA didn't even have an NFL team those recent days, but it does now. Two!
Which counties in metro St. Louis did you use? St. Louis City and St. Louis County alone have 1.3 million people in a combined 589 sq miles. Staying on the Missouri side alone you can add in Jefferson County (664 sq miles and 225k) and St. Charles County (593 sq miles and 386k), which gets you to 1.9 million plus in 1,846 sq miles. If I went by population, then remove Jefferson County, MO, add in Madison County, IL and you have approximately 1.95 million in 1,923 sq miles.
St. Clair County, IL would do the same thing as Madison County, IL, but with a few thousand less people and about 40 less sq miles.
I used St. Louis City/County, Jefferson, St. Charles and Monroe. But yeah, could've done what you did too. Really, it doesn't change much overall. Roughly, St. Louis is at about 2 million in 2,000 square miles.
The numbers for Detroit are incorrect. You excluded half a million (500,000) people. The population of Detroit's urban area is 3,887,853 (1959 square miles)
That wasn't all of Detroit's urban area. It was Wayne, Oakland and Macomb counties.
That wasn't all of Detroit's urban area. It was Wayne, Oakland and Macomb counties.
I'm confused as to what you mean. In your original post, you listed urban areas and stated:
"Detroit - 3,387,853 (1,959 square miles)"
You examined 1959 square miles which exactly amounts to Wayne, Oakland, and Macomb counties - it has a population of 3,887,853 as of 2018.
If you only want to look at only 1337 square miles to constitute the urban core (some people consider this as Detroit's urban core) then the population is 3,734,090 as of 2000.
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