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Old 02-20-2011, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Now if you want to eliminate Santa Fe from the list because it does not qualify as a city, that is one thing. But you cannot disqualify it for not being 'arty' enough.
Its not that it is not artsy enough, its just that NY, DC and Chicago are centuries ahead of Santa Fe in terms of art.

again it is not the number if sales or any per capita nonsense.

Just because Dallas has more restaurants per capita than New York or Chicago doesn't make Dallas a better food city. It is just not comparable.
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Old 02-21-2011, 12:16 PM
 
Location: Østenfor sol og vestenfor måne
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Its not that it is not artsy enough, its just that NY, DC and Chicago are centuries ahead of Santa Fe in terms of art.

again it is not the number if sales or any per capita nonsense.

Just because Dallas has more restaurants per capita than New York or Chicago doesn't make Dallas a better food city. It is just not comparable.
OK, I'm just trying to interpret your post since you don't actually qualify in what way Santa Fe is less deserving of recognition as an 'art city' than NY or Chicago, et al.

You say, for example, that 'more of something' doesn't make something qualify for recognition as per your 'Dallas as food city' example. So having an economy that is dependent on art sales and performance at a greater percentage, by far, than its 'arty' competitors doesn't qualify a city as 'arty', nor, according to your metaphor does a city with more art and performances in raw numbers.

So quantity, in any regard, does not a great art city make. OK, I'll buy that. At least, it describe what does not make a city worthy of regard in terms of arts. Let's see your other assertion.

You say Santa Fe 'centuries behind' other prominent art cities. What did you mean by that (since I assume you don't mean the art scene in Santa Fe is reminiscent of the art scene in other cities in the 17th and 18th centuries). Is it the type of art? is it the venues for display or performance? Is it quality? Do artists who display and sell in Santa Fe produce inferior art? Are the canvases smeared with a dull palette? Are the sculptures ill-proportioned? Are the ballerinas clumsier, the vocalists hoarse?

Now I grew up in NYC and routinely cut school to hang out in what I consider to be among the world's best art museums (and in my opinion the best collection of the art of antiquity this side of the British Museum) and am not going to argue that Santa Fe is a greater art city than New York and I can't comment on Chicago or other cities as I don't know much about their scenes. But I must object to the abject dismissal of Santa Fe especially when you can't come up with what qualifies a city as 'arty' beyond the nebulous 'centuries behind' argument.
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Old 02-21-2011, 12:30 PM
 
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LA easily rivals NYC as the most "happening" art scene in the US today. Outside of those two, there's not much going on.
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Old 02-21-2011, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Minneapolis
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Am I the only one here who thinks that being a great art city is all about having a culture that nurtures it's creative community? To me museums, orchestras and theaters are almost meaningless when it comes to creating a great art city. What is important is having artists, musicians and writers; the buildings don't matter so much. Unfortunately this is something that can't really be neatly quantified for a list.

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LA easily rivals NYC as the most "happening" art scene in the US today. Outside of those two, there's not much going on.
What a ridiculous thing to say.
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Old 02-22-2011, 12:48 PM
 
Location: Cleveland bound with MPLS in the rear-view
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Can't say I'm surprised......coastal speak.
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Old 02-23-2011, 06:26 PM
 
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LA, NYC, Boston, San Francisco, Seattle.

Regardless of how much of an "art" scene is found in other cities, there's still going to be an overriding stereotype (too southern, too conservative, boring, "in texas", "in the midwest") that nullifies the "art" scene, at least on a nationally relevant level, besides what some publication says when they have to release a new list every year.
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Old 02-23-2011, 08:42 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia,New Jersey, NYC!
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santa fe #2 lol

next...
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Old 03-27-2011, 10:30 PM
 
Location: NOLA
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I find it funny santa fe was mentioned as number one let me explain it more easily....
NYC-No explanation needed
SF-Design schools,culture to the brim,fashion
LA-Same as SF more of a media influence
Austin-Three words Keep Austin Weird
MIA-Art Basel,Design Dist,Model Agencies
Chicago-A rising star in the art and fashion world
Tie
Dallas-museums,etc nothing like NYC though as some people have been saying lately
Lousiville-Museums and theaters abound
New Orleans-Musical Influence and regional arts scene
Detroit-Same as New Orleans musical and regional arts scene and large spaces perfect
Providence/Pawtucket RI-RISD and Brown make the city a bit more unique then its bigger more straight edged brother Boston
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Old 03-28-2011, 02:03 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, New York
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The author of the article is from Texas who apparently never left the state outside of a trip to Santa Fe.

Even her description of NY (a city I'm most familiar with on the list) just mentions pretty much touristy well known big national museums. That's like making a list of the cities with best architecture and mentioning the White House as the prominent architecture style in Washington DC.
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Old 03-28-2011, 02:31 PM
 
Location: MN
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I'm surprised the lack of MPLS.

It's a huge arts scene here from live theatre, contemporary art, artists and musicians here.
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