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Old 01-13-2012, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Up on the moon laughing down on you
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Cool link. For my zip 94618 the population of the 100-mile radius 10,516,300.

Anyway, this sort of reminds me of Department of Commerce Economic Areas(EA) except EAs are about commerce and trade

Largest Economic Areas(EA)by Population, 2009
New York-Newark-Bridgeport 23,290,689
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside 19,716,406
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 10,531,781
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 9,715,968
Washington-Baltimore-Northern VA 9,279,882
Boston-Worcester-Manchester 8,341,507
Dallas-Ft Worth 8,073,237
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville 7,630,834
Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland 7,047,877
Detroit-Warren-Flint 6,915,601
Houston-Baytown-Huntsville 6,798,653
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Miami Beach 6,252,464
Minneapolis-St Paul-St Cloud 5,271,904
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale 4,939,644
Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia 4,682,642
Cleveland-Akron-Elyria 4,592,908
Orlando-The Villages 4,464,397
Denver-Aurora-Boulder 4,131,266
St Louis-St Charles-Farmington 3,389,150
Indianapolis-Anderson-Columbus 3,389,007
Raleigh-Durham-Cary 3,209,499
Portland-Vancouver-Beaverton 3,119,883
San Diego-Carslbad-San Marcos 3,053,793

Interesting how things can change in 40 years.

Economic Areas(EA) by Population, 1969
New York-Newark-Bridgeport 20,159,109
Los Angeles-Long Beach-Riverside 10,701,471
Chicago-Naperville-Michigan City 8,667,653
Boston-Worcester-Manchester 6,670,237
Detroit-Warren-Flint 6,566,143
Philadelphia-Camden-Vineland 6,071,629
Washington-Baltimore-Northern VA 5,846,068
San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland 5,777,383
Cleveland-Akron-Elyria 4,787,475
Minneapolis-St Paul-St Cloud 3,573,139
Pittsburgh-New Castle 3,375,085(2,876,342 in 2009)
Dallas-Ft Worth 3,309,763
Atlanta-Sandy Springs-Gainesville 3,080,679
St Louis-St Charles Farmington 2,961,869
Houston-Baytown-Huntsville 2,708,332
Indianapolis-Anderson-Columbus 2,647,322
Miami-Ft Lauderdale-Miami Beach 2,372,803
Seattle-Tacoma-Olympia 2,354,667
Denver-Aurora-Boulder 1,747,727
Raleigh-Durham-Cary 1,636,122
Portland-Vancouver-Beaverton 1,565,354
San Diego-Carlsbad-San Marcos 1,340,989
Orlando-The Villages 1,271,851
Phoenix-Mesa-Scottsdale 1,235,200
interesting but useless stat.have you seen maps of these areas?

look at how large and random some of these are.
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:44 AM
 
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interesting but useless stat.have you seen maps of these areas?

look at how large and random some of these are.
Large yes, random not as much as they base on commerce flow

This is basically a regional key city affiliation. The less concetrated large cities are the larger the area in general

Not sure they portray a city characteristic per se but more a regional commerce influence where proximity of other large cities or lack there of has a significant impact on the size of the commerce influenced area.

It is not really that comparable to radius population which does nothing to take into account any influence other than distance
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Old 01-13-2012, 11:55 AM
 
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Kind of cool. It looks as though it only lists places in the US and doesn't cross the border to take Canadian populations into account. A couple places I have lived in the last decade.

Washburn, ME: These numbers would be quite different if the Canadian Population counted toward the totals.
5 miles: 1,706
10 miles: 15,308
25 miles: 38,516
50 miles: 69,779
100 miles: 95,771
250 Miles: 1,233,296
Sometimes I forget just how far north Maine extends... How far is it until you get to the Boston Metro?

What Canadian cities would be included in 100 miles or 250 miles?
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:03 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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interesting but useless stat.have you seen maps of these areas?

look at how large and random some of these are.
Random? There is nothing random about geographic areas related to trade and commerce. These areas actually meet a criteria unlike simple 100-mile radius stats, which is what is interesting but without context, pretty useless. Fun tho.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:09 PM
 
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Large yes, random not as much as they base on commerce flow

This is basically a regional key city affiliation. The less concetrated large cities are the larger the area in general

Not sure they portray a city characteristic per se but more a regional commerce influence where proximity of other large cities or lack there of has a significant impact on the size of the commerce influenced area.

It is not really that comparable to radius population which does nothing to take into account any influence other than distance
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Random? There is nothing random about geographic areas related to trade and commerce. These areas actually meet a criteria unlike simple 100-mile radius stats, which is what is interesting but without context, pretty useless. Fun tho.
I can't make sense out of some of them.
http://transition.fcc.gov/oet/info/maps/bea/bea1995.gif
I would think that Corpus Christi would have more interaction with San Antonio than Houston. Or than Austin and SA would have more influence on each other than Austin and Dallas. Look at the one around LA. How do you explain that one??? It loops from SD around to North of LA.

Maybe useless was a totally wrong word to use, but I still think the boundaries look weird
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:37 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Sometimes I forget just how far north Maine extends... How far is it until you get to the Boston Metro?

What Canadian cities would be included in 100 miles or 250 miles?
As the crow flies it is just under 340 miles to Boston from Washburn. If you go to the very top of Maine it is 20 or 30 miles further.

Canadian cities that have any size to them (relatively speaking that is) would be Fredricton, NB at 85 miles; Saint John, NB at 140 miles; Quebec City, Quebec at 145 miles; Moncton, NB at 160 miles; Montreal is just outside the 250 mile range, but there are a lot of small towns and cities in Canada that would come close to doubling the population figures at anything more than the 25 mile range.
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Old 01-13-2012, 12:44 PM
 
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I can't make sense out of some of them.
http://transition.fcc.gov/oet/info/maps/bea/bea1995.gif
I would think that Corpus Christi would have more interaction with San Antonio than Houston. Or than Austin and SA would have more influence on each other than Austin and Dallas. Look at the one around LA. How do you explain that one??? It loops from SD around to North of LA.

Maybe useless was a totally wrong word to use, but I still think the boundaries look weird
Intuitively they make a lot of sense

LA is a much larger city thus larger draw. The area under Houston or DFW influence is enormous

Some areas are large enough (i.e. SA/Austin) to fall off the sphere of influence

Not sure exactely the metric but these dont seem far fetched given commerce influence; cant comment on the Corpus Christie dynamic though as I am not remotely well versed enough

Another interesting thing is Mercer County falls under the Philly area on this metric
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Old 01-13-2012, 04:36 PM
 
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Lexington KY, almost 5 million hillbillies within a 100 mile radius. Scary.
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:02 PM
 
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Intuitively they make a lot of sense

LA is a much larger city thus larger draw.
exactly. LA is a much larger city so it SHOULD have a large draw, but look how tiny the land area for LA is.

In fact the map and the figures don't even match up.

Dunno, but it makes little sense to me.
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Old 01-13-2012, 05:28 PM
 
Location: Springfield and brookline MA
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From where i live in a 100 mile radius there is just under 15 million(14,935,380). I live in West Springfield Ma which is in the western part of the state.
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