Can someone tell me which city is the 'real' gateway to the west? (luxury, living)

[west336]

St. Louis -- in SO many ways.

[Inkpoe]

Originally Posted by AksarbeN

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However the Oregon wagon trains started out of Independence MO so that might also be considered the beginning of the westward movement.

Yes, the game that my peers and I played, The Oregon Trail, started at Independence, MO. Fun game.

[cacto]

Denver.

Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma are the Great Plains which is the MidWest.

As a lifelong Arizonan I can tell you I have heard St. Louis referred to as "back East".

[kshe95girl]

Originally Posted by cacto

Denver.

Nebraska, Kansas, Oklahoma are the Great Plains which is the MidWest.

As a lifelong Arizonan I can tell you I have heard St. Louis referred to as "back East".

One can only suppose all those historians are just wrong.

[ironcouger]

San Fransico

[badhornet]

Del Rio, TX

[Humanandneedtobeloved]

DENVER. Not even a question, imo. It is Denver.

[AksarbeN]

Ok,,, let’s try Manhattan, most everything is “west” of there. Those coming to America via Ellis Island or NY City are truly going to travel westward to get anyplace other then NYC. lol

[LINative]

Originally Posted by HtownLove

Exactly, the gateway to the west must naturally also be the gateway to the east. You can't honestly look at places like Fort Worth, El Paso, Denver or Albuquerque as Gateways to the west because going the other way around doesn't get you any east, just west west and more west.

This is a good point.

In order for Denver to be considered "Gateway to the West", you would have to consider that a large part of Colorado itself is in the East! And not just Colorado, but parts of Montana, Wyoming and New Mexico, basically more than 2/3rds of the country, would be considered "East". I think most us would agree this is kind of bizzare!

And so then everything that happened on the Plains, the Sioux, Cheyenne and Pawnee Indians, the vast herds of Bison and Pronghorn Antelope, the gunfights in Dodge City, the pioneers in their wagon trains and even the cowboys rounding uo their cattle from Texas to Kansas --- all happened in the East!

So, I think is still safe to say that St Louis, the city that lays next to the country's largest river, remains at the boundary of East and West --- that is if you divided the country into only two parts, which we rarely do.

[LINative]

Originally Posted by ironcouger

San Fransico

I was thinking about this one too. From the perspective of Asia, San Francisco makes sense.