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I don't disagree with classifying these places as being southern (mid atlantic at most) i just don't think that hip hop is a good way of deciding it.
It's not the only thing to look at. But it is something that people in the black and Hispanic communities would use to distinguish between the North and South. You have to look at everyone of all different ethnicities and races. In New York, it's not like it's just white transplants providing so-called "Yankee" culture. The blacks and Hispanics (think Spike Lee or John Leguizamo) are also "Yankee." That's how you know it's the true Northeast.
The response you often hear when it comes to a place like DC is "Sure, the AA community is pretty southern, but that's about it" (as if the majority AA population is negligible). It's almost assumed that all blacks are southern in cities all across the country. And since the AA community constitutes a majority of the population, is it the case that the non-black "Yankee" population trumps that southerness? Or is it that the AA population there doesn't count? Or is it simply invisible?
And when I say that Baltimore is kinda southern, I'm talking about the black and the white people there (Dundalk, Essex, etc.). I would say that the black population in Baltimore is less southern than the black population in DC, but the super transient white population there makes it feel very different from Baltimore.
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Nice video, but that was the culture in many cities across America. NYC, LA, Philly, Baltimore
Um, no. The Philly rap scene started in the late 1970s.
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Despite the genre's growing popularity, Philadelphia was, for many years, the only city whose contributions could be compared to New York City's. Hip hop music became popular in Philadelphia in the late 1970s. The first released record was titled "Rhythm Talk", by Jocko Henderson.
The New York Times had dubbed Philadelphia the "Graffiti Capital of the World" in 1971. Philadelphia native DJ Lady B recorded "To the Beat Y'All" in 1979, and became the first female solo hip hop artist to record music. Schoolly D, starting in 1984 and also from Philadelphia, began creating a style that would later be known as gangsta rap.
Hip hop wasn't even an afterthought in Baltimore in the late 70s and early 80s (when the video I linked to was filmed). Baltimore's not even on the map as far as hip hop is concerned today. But I guess Baltimore had hip hop the same way it has all those Puerto Ricans you claim exist there (all 3,107 of them according to the Census, which is about 1/50th of Philly's Boricuan population).
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...not sure about the south, though.
What are you talking about? The Geto Boys were making hip hop way before anyone in Baltimore ever was. And so was Jermain Dupri for that matter.
Black people in Chicago act and talk southern as hell but no one calls it a southern city. Baltimore and DC have southern influences, duh! but you can't call those cities southern because of it. The only reason why black people in NYC, Boston, and the rest of the "northeast" don't sound southern is because the influence Italians and the Irish has had on them and also a lot black people in NY, NJ, CT, Mass, R.I., Philly seem to be Caribbean or African so why would they have a southern accent if they have no southern roots? Philly and DE do indeed have some black people who do sound kinda southern, I would know my family migrated up there in the 50's-70's from the south but the younger generation eludes it some....
I didn't even press play and that video looks JUST LIKE BALTIMORE. I can see he case for DC being southern but not Baltimore, I don't care how Baltimoreans talk that city looks and feels entirely too northern to be called southern.....
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