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Outside Atlanta in Georgia, the other Georgia MSA's are doing badly, barely growing if at all. Atlanta, GA is sucking the life out of the rest of the state of Georgia. Without Hilton Head, S. Carolina; the Savannah, GA MSA would be shrinking.
I agree with your other ideas -- Do you think Birmingham has a chance?
Not true; Hilton Head isn't even part of Savannah's MSA. Savannah is growing at a pretty quick clip on its own but it's still only a fraction of the size of Atlanta.
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Outside Atlanta in Georgia, the other Georgia MSA's are doing badly, barely growing if at all. Atlanta, GA is sucking the life out of the rest of the state of Georgia. Without Hilton Head, S. Carolina; the Savannah, GA MSA would be shrinking.
I agree with your other ideas -- Do you think Birmingham has a chance?
Augusta’s MSA is over 600,000 in 2019..
Why make such generalizations which it’s a fact your opinion is not true?
Birmingham is a city that seems to be turning itself in a more forward-looking place. It took a body blow in the late 70s due to its dependence on steel at the time, then took another in 2008 due to the banking meltdown. The downtown area is in the midst of a renaissance due to a tax incentive program, a new public park, and the relocation of the baseball team to the city center. Add to that a budding tech industry and continued diversification of the economy. Finally, the longtime fracturing of the regions many municipalities seems to be waning as the old mossbacks die off.
Birmingham is a city that seems to be turning itself in a more forward-looking place. It took a body blow in the late 70s due to its dependence on steel at the time, then took another in 2008 due to the banking meltdown. The downtown area is in the midst of a renaissance due to a tax incentive program, a new public park, and the relocation of the baseball team to the city center. Add to that a budding tech industry and continued diversification of the economy. Finally, the longtime fracturing of the regions many municipalities seems to be waning as the old mossbacks die off.
Birmingham is a city that seems to be turning itself in a more forward-looking place. It took a body blow in the late 70s due to its dependence on steel at the time, then took another in 2008 due to the banking meltdown. The downtown area is in the midst of a renaissance due to a tax incentive program, a new public park, and the relocation of the baseball team to the city center. Add to that a budding tech industry and continued diversification of the economy. Finally, the longtime fracturing of the regions many municipalities seems to be waning as the old mossbacks die off.
I disagree. Birmingham is not growing much, and the city has higher crime. I think there are other cities that stand a better chance.
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Outside Atlanta in Georgia, the other Georgia MSA's are doing badly, barely growing if at all. Atlanta, GA is sucking the life out of the rest of the state of Georgia. Without Hilton Head, S. Carolina; the Savannah, GA MSA would be shrinking.
I agree with your other ideas -- Do you think Birmingham has a chance?
This seems to be a pattern in states where the biggest city is also the capital
I.E.
Phoenix here in AZ, Atlanta in GA, Denver in CO, Salt Lake City in UT and Boston in MA. Oklahoma has seemed to avoid this symptom as Tulsa is not too distant of a 2nd city to OKC (the capital and biggest city). Tennessee has avoided it as well with Memphis (the former biggest city) still not too far behind Nashville (the current biggest city and capital)
This seems to be a pattern in states where the biggest city is also the capital
I.E.
Phoenix here in AZ, Atlanta in GA, Denver in CO, Salt Lake City in UT and Boston in MA. Oklahoma has seemed to avoid this symptom as Tulsa is not too distant of a 2nd city to OKC (the capital and biggest city). Tennessee has avoided it as well with Memphis (the former biggest city) still not too far behind Nashville (the current biggest city and capital)
In Tennessee Nashville drains much of the resources. The other metros are largely stagnant with the exception of Clarksville. Governor Lee vows to focus more resources on rural areas, particularly infrastructure, which may help some. The biggest stimulus is jobs, which Nashville continues to attract away from other cities.
I disagree. Birmingham is not growing much, and the city has higher crime. I think there are other cities that stand a better chance.
True but Birmingham is building a lot. New entertainment and living areas or "districts" around downtown. New TopGolf last year and new stadium in a couple years.
They're seriously building as if they're growing fast. I'm not sure how the economics of that work out but they're doing it.
This seems to be a pattern in states where the biggest city is also the capital
I.E.
Phoenix here in AZ, Atlanta in GA, Denver in CO, Salt Lake City in UT and Boston in MA. Oklahoma has seemed to avoid this symptom as Tulsa is not too distant of a 2nd city to OKC (the capital and biggest city). Tennessee has avoided it as well with Memphis (the former biggest city) still not too far behind Nashville (the current biggest city and capital)
Tucson is a good size city and so is Colorado Springs. Another state where the capital has recently overtaken another to be the largest city is Ohio. Columbus is now larger than Cleveland.
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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Tucson is a good size city and so is Colorado Springs. Another state where the capital has recently overtaken another to be the largest city is Ohio. Columbus is now larger than Cleveland.
Columbus is only the biggest city proper in Ohio, Cleveland is still the biggest and most dominant metro area.
Also, Tucson and Colo Springs both have almost no suburbs, so they are only 1 million metros or so. Greater Phoenix has 5x as many people as Greater Tucson, and Greater Denver is over twice as populous as the Colo Springs area. And can't speak for Colo, but Tucson has almost no economy for working age people, so it's no contest
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