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Old 08-07-2007, 08:09 AM
 
Location: In God
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It is valid because that's what people voted. The questions were very simple, and people answered. Just because respondents to a survey don't agree with you doesn't mean they don't "know their stuff".
Never said the list was false; however, there is a good chance that these people indeed do not really know their stuff.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:12 AM
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This list is about public perception, not about reality, as usually those two things are pretty far apart.

However, a list based on perception cannot be right or wrong, it just sort of 'is'.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Keller, Tx
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I was wondering about the deletion of Houston and Miami myself. If you're going to include Atlanta, no reason Houston and Miami shouldn't be in there. And yea, Atlanta being one behind Chicago makes no sense, they're not even in the same league.

However, much of it does seem to fall into place, I think the top three U.S. city placement makes some sense. Sydney is a great and beautiful place, but as far as it being more of a "world" city, I don't see how that merits number one. I mean, over London, Paris, Rome, and New York City, gimme a break.

I do agree with the Boston over Chicago, Boston has alot more sense of place and sophistication in my opinion. Seattle, not a bad place but not over Chicago in terms of world city but thats just my two cents.

Of course, I've seen other world city lists that have this same list of cities in totally different order so it all depends on the criteria and whose doing the research I suppose.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:15 AM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Never said the list was false;
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Could this be any more full of b.s. Are you kidding me? How valid is a list that it doesn't even include Miami or Houston?
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however, there is a good chance that these people indeed do not really know their stuff.
Your logic leaves me dazzled. What part of the word "perception" do you not get? This survey is not about what's reality, it's about what people perceive. So there is no "stuff' to know. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that if you ranked your perception of those cities on the list, the ~15K respondents might say that you don't know your "stuff".
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:15 AM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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Dang, this poll is whacked out!
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:19 AM
 
Location: New Zealand
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People, please read the actual report first -- what they measured and how they measured it, before spouting off how these rankings are "wrong".
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:21 AM
 
Location: Phoenix metro
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People, please read the actual report first -- what they measured and how they measured it, before spouting off how these rankings are "wrong".
I did read it. Still doesnt mean that its nonsense in my eyes.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:23 AM
 
Location: New Zealand
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Sydney is a great and beautiful place, but as far as it being more of a "world" city, I don't see how that merits number one. I mean, over London, Paris, Rome, and New York City, gimme a break.
I had the same thought. But the report does address this, and it makes sense. Also, those other world-class cities take a beating in several areas, e.g. affordability, green spaces, weather, etc.

Another reason could be that those other cities are already at the top of the recognition game -- they don't really have to market themselves or push their image out to the world -- so they have no place to go but down when places like Sydney have aggressively marketed themselves.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Live in VA, Work in MD, Play in DC
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People, please read the actual report first -- what they measured and how they measured it, before spouting off how these rankings are "wrong".
Exactly

Please know that this is about city-BRANDING.

Brand recognition is created by a mixture of both experience and marketing.
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Old 08-07-2007, 08:28 AM
 
Location: In God
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Your logic leaves me dazzled. What part of the word "perception" do you not get? This survey is not about what's reality, it's about what people perceive. So there is no "stuff' to know. I'm going to take a wild guess and say that if you ranked your perception of those cities on the list, the ~15K respondents might say that you don't know your "stuff".
Yeah, and those 15K would be wrong. No way around it. But I apologize, I do realize where I came off as saying that the list was false. Didn't mean to, though. I stand by my opinion, though, that those interviewed don't know crap worth a damn. In the nicest way, though.
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