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Old 03-25-2016, 02:39 PM
Status: "There are better things ahead than behind. CS Lewis" (set 11 days ago)
 
Location: Wonderland
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That's rural old school Black Southern speech. The younger new school Black speech throughout the country does emphasize the "sh" in street, strong, and straight. I honestly thought it was common.
Well, Shpade, I've honestly never heard anyone do that. Maybe it's regional.
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Old 03-25-2016, 09:55 PM
 
Location: Wichita, KS
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Just chiming in to say that my recent ex (White young male from Lousiana) has this inflection. When I told him, he seemed puzzled/unaware.

I think its a sort of spotty language drift throughout the south.
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Old 03-25-2016, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Jersey City
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Another African-American pronunciation that's creeping into general usage among all young people is using an "sh" sound when saying words that start with an "st" such as street ("sh-treet"), strong (sh-trong") and straight (sh-traight). I just started noticing it in the last 10-20 years - probably from the huge popularity of Hip-Hop and Rap culture spreading to the mainstream.
That's a very common trait among white people too, especially in areas with lots of people of Irish, German, Yiddish speaking descent. I'd wager most white people in the Philly, NJ, NY regions do this.

Edit: I'm listening to Bernie Sanders speak now (Brooklyn native) talking about the "shtruggle" gay people and their "shtraight" allies took on to get gay marriage.

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Old 03-25-2016, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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Well, Shpade, I've honestly never heard anyone do that. Maybe it's regional.
Sp is not really like St. Maybe it's the added "r" after st that brings in the confusion. Because now that I think about it, I pronounce strong, straddle, strength the same way as straight and street.
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