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View Poll Results: Are the Great Plains going to be restored?
Yes 15 33.33%
No 7 15.56%
Not in the near future 9 20.00%
Never 14 31.11%
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Old 08-21-2011, 10:57 AM
 
Location: MN
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Well, at least for the time bing, the Great Plains are somewhat necessary in order to supply the world with mass quantities of wheat and corn.

The problem, though, is irrigation, especially in the western portions of these states. There are reports that the Ogallala Acquifer is slowly, but surely, running out of water. This will determine the future of agriculture on the Great Plains, along with the equally slow, but steady, decline of the small town on the plains.
Acres of Irrigated Harvested Cropland as Percent of All Harvested Cropland Acreage
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Old 08-21-2011, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Boilermaker Territory
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That irrigation percentage in Nebraska is highly elevated and definitely not sustainable in the longer term- even with the deeper stratfied depth of the Ogallala Aquifer in the area.
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Old 08-21-2011, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Southwest Michigan/Miami Beach Miami
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Where is the option for "I don't know, but I hope so"?
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Old 08-23-2011, 08:47 PM
 
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Western Civilization peaked in the 1980s and other Civilizations are not ever going to cut the mustard. We have witnessed a peak akin to the period 200BC - 400AD. Although the UN has forecast overall peak world population ~ 2050AD (and the US sooner) all indicators hint at an even more aggressive inflection and move into decline. De development is already under way. By the 22nd century a new Age of Migrations is likely. So, the loss of settlement will be a lagging indicator of civilizational failure.
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Old 08-23-2011, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Ohio, USA
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No-one will even notice if we give North Dakota back to the Native Americans, we can just give the Interstate 29 part to Minnesota.
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Old 08-26-2011, 06:42 AM
 
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This is a good point. Sparsely populated isn't the same as unpopulated and there are some micros in the area that apparently are stable, same population as in 2000, or even somewhat growing.

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Hence part of why I was tempted to say "maybe some" or the like.
Yes, believe it or not, some people do actually live out here.
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Old 08-26-2011, 08:53 AM
 
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No-one will even notice if we give North Dakota back to the Native Americans, we can just give the Interstate 29 part to Minnesota.
Except for people who eat food or use oil

Just because there aren't a lot of people on the ground doesn't mean we aren't still going to town on the land growing a lot of crops, raising livestock and pumping out oil.
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Old 08-26-2011, 11:49 AM
 
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That irrigation percentage in Nebraska is highly elevated and definitely not sustainable in the longer term- even with the deeper stratfied depth of the Ogallala Aquifer in the area.
I agree.

A crop like corn, which needs a decent amount of rainfall, is best suited to states like Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and yes Nebraska, but it must be EASTERN/CENTRAL Nebraska; western NE, most of Kansas, North Dakota, etc, are too dry for corn, and those areas are planted with wheat, which is less water-dependent.

I have noticed on maps of Nebraska that there is significant corn acreage in western Nebraska, no doubt propped up by the Ogallala Acquifer. This can't last much longer..
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Old 08-31-2011, 12:13 PM
 
Location: vista
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Question question?

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I agree.

A crop like corn, which needs a decent amount of rainfall, is best suited to states like Iowa, Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and yes Nebraska, but it must be EASTERN/CENTRAL Nebraska; western NE, most of Kansas, North Dakota, etc, are too dry for corn, and those areas are planted with wheat, which is less water-dependent.

I have noticed on maps of Nebraska that there is significant corn acreage in western Nebraska, no doubt propped up by the Ogallala Acquifer. This can't last much longer..
Why not?
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Old 08-31-2011, 12:49 PM
 
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Why not?
I already explained this.
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