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My take on this is, gentrification is on thing black are being priced out of neighborhoods that were once majority black; moving to the suburbs of their cities. Also, many black people are moving to the suburbs because we are "better off" than we once were. Furthermore, black people are moving back to the south in search of better opportunities, more family oriented environments....etc. Finally, the 10 largest today weren't to same 10 they were years ago, places like Phoenix, Houston, Dallas, which have relatively small black population have replaced cities like Baltimore, Cleveland, Detroit...etc, that had a larger percentage of black people.
i somewhat agree with this. and:
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Originally Posted by citylove101
Also don't forget that many cities are seeing huge increases in Hispanic growth that isdisplacing the residents of many once black neighborhoods as we see in New York, LA, Chicago, Detroit and others I assume. So some places it's a decline in actual numbers, others just a decline in share of the overall population.
cities like Baltimore and Detroit with the dominate minorities that are Blacks got replaced with San Deigo, and San Antiono which are Hispanic as its second largest racial group.
My take on this is, gentrification is on thing black are being priced out of neighborhoods that were once majority black; moving to the suburbs of their cities. Also, many black people are moving to the suburbs because we are "better off" than we once were. Furthermore, black people are moving back to the south in search of better opportunities, more family oriented environments....etc. Finally, the 10 largest today weren't to same 10 they were years ago, places like Phoenix, Houston, Dallas, which have relatively small black population have replaced cities like Baltimore, Cleveland, Detroit...etc, that had a larger percentage of black people.
When did Houston and Dallas ever have small black populations especially compared to the cities you named? I can understand your point about Phoenix but not the Texas two.
My take on this is, gentrification is one thing black are being priced out of neighborhoods that were once majority black; moving to the suburbs of their cities. Also, many black people are moving to the suburbs because we are "better off" than we once were.
I agree having witnessed it in the Northeast US for many years. Many urban neighborhoods have gentrified and it has turned them into higher priced places to live. Many urban Blacks (along with Hispanics) who have been priced out of those gentrified neighborhoods have moved into older "inner ring suburbs" as the progression for those attracted to the suburbs (the new construction-only types) continues to creep further and further out.
There seems to be a lot of blanket assumptions in this thread. First, not all Northern cities are losing blacks. Second, the cost of living is not more expensive in all of the North vs. South. There seems to be this perception that NYC equals the entire Northeast, Midwest, and upper Plains. It's bs and I wish people would stop repeating this crap as factual.
There seems to be a lot of blanket assumptions in this thread. First, not all Northern cities are losing blacks. Second, the cost of living is not more expensive in all of the North vs. South. There seems to be this perception that NYC equals the entire Northeast, Midwest, and upper Plains. It's bs and I wish people would stop repeating this crap as factual.
and the problem is the Top Ten cities changed over the last 50 years.
I calculated the census numbers for the top 10 cities between 1960-2000. The black population reached it's peak in 1970 and then declined after that year. Why is that? What is it about bigger cities that's turning Black Americans away?
I don't know the data yet for the Top 10 Cities for 2010.
I think that Hurricane Katrina skewed these figures. After the hurricane, there were hundreds of thousands of people who left New Orleans, and many of them were black.
Detroit, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh, Toledo, St. Louis, Chicago and Baltimore all lost OVERALL population during the past 10 years, so certainly that would extrapolate into lower African American population numbers.
I think the statistics you quote are not clearly representative of a particular trend other than many large cities (especially in the north) are losing people. I would guess that there are many smaller cities in the south where the increases in black population offset these numbers.
I think the statistics you quote are not clearly representative of a particular trend other than many large cities (especially in the north) are losing people. I would guess that there are many smaller cities in the south where the increases in black population offset these numbers.
Actually, you can find the trend in smaller Southern cities as well. Just two examples from my native SC:
Whites flock to Columbia, blacks to Richland County - Redistricting - TheState.com (http://www.thestate.com/2011/03/27/1752757/awaiting-a-benjamin-quote-waddell.html - broken link)
There seems to be a lot of blanket assumptions in this thread. First, not all Northern cities are losing blacks. Second, the cost of living is not more expensive in all of the North vs. South. There seems to be this perception that NYC equals the entire Northeast, Midwest, and upper Plains. It's bs and I wish people would stop repeating this crap as factual.
Very true and in fact, every city in Upstate NY with at least 10,000 people has seen an increase in Black percentage and community population(except for perhaps Saratoga Springs thanks to gentrification). I believe that every city in Upstate NY with at least 40,000 people is around the national Black percentage of roughly 13%. Buffalo and Rochester are around 40%. Albany, Poughkeepsie and Syracuse are in the low 30's. Schenectady, Niagara Falls and Newburgh are in the low to mid 20's. Except for Poughkeepsie and Newburgh, the rest have average to just below average COL.
in the 60s & 70s blacks moved in, ran the whites out, tore up everything they could, brought in crime and other bad elements, and then blamed the whites for it all happening......
Fast forward to the 2000s & 2010s...... living in the city is "cool" again, and since the presence of the blacks ran down property values, the whites and hispanics have bought up property, ran out the blacks, fixed up the neighborhoods, reduced crime, and made city living "desirable" again.
What a fairytale world you live in. In everyone else's world, hispanics do the complete opposite of this. Circa 2000 & 2010s.
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