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Unless they're Native American and can speak a Native American language they shouldn’t be marking their ethnicity “American” I don’t care how many generations they live here that don’t mean they speak Cherokee or etc.
you act as if the cherokee sprouted up out of the ground in what is now the US.
when it comes to race, yes, they should mark white (european descent).
but when it comes to ethnicity, they are ethnically american
you act as if the cherokee sprouted up out of the ground in what is now the US.
when it comes to race, yes, they should mark white (european descent).
but when it comes to ethnicity, they are ethnically american
No I act like the Cherokees and etc are native to this land, how is someone going to claim an ethnicity over someone else ethnicity. All they know is western culture, they don't even know about Native American culture most don't even care about Native American culture. There Nationality is American there ethnicity is not.
No I act like the Cherokees and etc are native to this land, how is someone going to claim an ethnicity over someone else ethnicity. All they know is western culture, they don't even know about Native American culture most don't even care about Native American culture. There Nationality is American there ethnicity is not.
native to this land? in what sense? in the sense that they migrated here first, but they did not sprout up out of the ground.
but you really dont seem to get it. first off, "american" is not a native american word. "american" culture is the culture that originated in the 13 colonies.
im starting to doubt if you even know what ethnicity is
you refuse to acknowledge that america has developed its own culture and ethnic groups. why this is i do not know
native to this land? in what sense? in the sense that they migrated here first, but they did not sprout up out of the ground.
but you really dont seem to get it. first off, "american" is not a native american word. "american" culture is the culture that originated in the 13 colonies.
im starting to doubt if you even know what ethnicity is
you refuse to acknowledge that america has developed its own culture and ethnic groups. why this is i do not know
In a, they migrated here first and have been here thousands of years, indigenous people sense.
Dosen't matter the culture on the colonies aren't indigenous, Colonialist call this land America if someone was to call their ethnicity "American" they should reflect the native culture of this land. The problem is the tendency to ignore, lower the native culture, while extending there own culture, and bringing the focus back to them. Case in point right now
Yes I know what ethnicity means I said American is there nationality not there ethnicity.
I acknowledge that America developed its own culture before the colonialist came who reflected western culture in which generations later now reflecting them and their own inner cultural diversity of western culture.
In a, they migrated here first and have been here thousands of years, indigenous people sense.
Dosen't matter the culture on the colonies aren't indigenous, Colonialist call this land America if someone was to call their ethnicity "American" they should reflect the native culture of this land. The problem is the tendency to ignore, lower the native culture, while extending there own culture, and bringing the focus back to them. Case in point right now
why? first off, maerican culture is influenced by native culture. where do you think corn and tobacco harvesting come from? its also influenced by african culture.
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Originally Posted by chiatldal
Yes I know what ethnicity means I said American is there nationality not there ethnicity.
I acknowledge that America developed its own culture before the colonialist came who reflected western culture in which generations later now reflecting them and their own inner cultural diversity of western culture.
you just conflicted yourself. you say you acknowledge that these americans have developed their own culture, yet you refuse to acknowledge them as an ethnicity. sounds like you have a bias.
you main agrument here is that native american culture is not acknowledged well enough. but thats a separate issue. all we're talking about here is this specific ethnic group.
white southerners are an ethnic group part of the larger ethnic group "american". perhaps "white american", or "white southerner" would be more accurate.
is your issue with the fact that they call their ethnicity on the census "american", or the fact that they are an ethnic group at all?
There is "American" in the nationality sense, as in that is where a person is a citizen of. Nationality has nothing to do with race, ancestry, or ethnicity.
I think there should be "American" in the ethnic sense as well, and I'd even go as far to say that we should abandon previous ethnic/ancestral markers such as "German", "Italian", "Irish", et al, if one is a native-born American and has no linguistic or strong cultural ties to another country.
For example, I'm an American of German descent (among others), but I have no ties to German culture....at all. So, I'd find it silly to mark German as my ancestry.
If we must classify, can't we just classify native-born Americans by race and/or language, and leave the "German" column for people actually from Germany?
I think that it is part redneck culture that makes them declare American as their ancestry. These census questions are specifically asking what their descendency is, not what nationality they are. I don't see why these people cannot show some courtesy and give a straight answer. I am multiple generation American as well but if someone asked what my ancestry was I would probably say Irish because I believe it to be my slightly dominant one.
I put American in addition to White... because yeah we may all have different ancestries, different cultural backgrounds, different religious beliefs... but in the end we're in this together and we shouldn't divide ourselves.
I think that it is part redneck culture that makes them declare American as their ancestry. These census questions are specifically asking what their descendency is, not what nationality they are. I don't see why these people cannot show some courtesy and give a straight answer. I am multiple generation American as well but if someone asked what my ancestry was I would probably say Irish because I believe it to be my slightly dominant one.
You need to look at the link again Jimmy. It says ancestry!
And I meant redneck as more of an attitude than a description of who they are.
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