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you are correct. "it is based strictly on where it is located." hence, great lakes cities are coastal. As are those along the gulf of mexico.
As i stated in post #32, i prefer going with the national oceanic and atmospheric administration's definition of coastal communities;
"the attached list contains all u.s. Counties defined as coastal by the strategic environmental assessments division of the national oceanic and atmospheric administration (noaa). These are counties that meet one of the following criteria: 1) at least 15 percent of a county’s total land area is located within the nation’s coastal watershed; or 2) a portion of or an entire county accounts for at least 15 percent of a coastal cataloging unit. Any u.s. County that meets these criteria is classified as coastal. This is the list of coastal counties that noaa recommends for the bureau of the census’ statistical abstract publication series. There are 672 coastal counties including the district of columbia in the united states (285 in the atlantic, 142 in the gulf of mexico, 87 in the pacific, and 158 in the great lakes). In 1990, these counties accounted for almost 54 percent of the nation’s population and 25 percent of the land area. If alaska is excluded, the proportion of the u.s. Land area classified as coastal decreases to 17 percent." http://www.census.gov/geo/landview/l...oastal_cty.pdf
Great lakes cities are coastal in a sense...the great lakes are huge bodies of water, have shipping, beaches, have canals/rivers connecting them to the ocean, etc. They're basically little fresh water oceans with tiny waves. A city like Chicago or Cleveland is definitely coastal, IMO, or at least they get an honorable mention...it's just a different kind of coast.
I have a hard time saying a place like Philly or Houston is Coastal though. Near the coast? Yes. Large seaports? Yes. But not coastal...those are river cities (though Houston is closer to being coastal than Philly, with outskirts right by Galveston Bay). "Coastal" is when you can actually see the ocean and the horizon from the city, hear the waves crashing, hear fog horns, smell the salt air, when your city has a large fishing industry, and when you can get to the ocean in well less than an hour--preferably while staying within the city limits.
Chicago and Cleveland are coastal cities .That's is a delusional statement. Im sorry but the great lakes are not a ocean. Philly and Houston are coastal cities imo because both cities are located on saltwater rivers that directly connect them to the ocean within 30 miles. Coastal does not necessarily mean located on a beach imo.
You are correct. "It is based strictly on where it is located." Hence, Great Lakes cities are coastal. As are those along the Gulf of Mexico.
As I stated in post #32, I prefer going with the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's definition of coastal communities;
"The attached list contains all U.S. counties defined as coastal by the Strategic Environmental Assessments Division of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA). These are counties that meet one of the following criteria: 1) at least 15 percent of a county’s total land area is located within the Nation’s coastal watershed; or 2) a portion of or an entire county accounts for at least 15 percent of a coastal cataloging unit. Any U.S. county that meets these criteria is classified as coastal. This is the list of coastal counties that NOAA recommends for the Bureau of the Census’ Statistical Abstract publication series. There are 672 coastal counties including the District of Columbia in the United States (285 in the Atlantic, 142 in the Gulf of Mexico, 87 in the Pacific, and 158 in the Great Lakes). In 1990, these counties accounted for almost 54 percent of the Nation’s population and 25 percent of the land area. If Alaska is excluded, the proportion of the U.S. land area classified as coastal decreases to 17 percent." http://www.census.gov/geo/landview/l...oastal_cty.pdf
Honestly, I've never heard of the Great Lakes area(s) being referred to as "coastal" until I've joined on here. I'm strictly going by definition, of what is coastal. The Great Lakes region is not what I would consider as such. I'm just being honest. *shrugs*
I have to say though that I am suspect that this subject, conjures attempts to downplay cities like Houston, which is a coastal city, by all accounts, in order to boost and match midwestern/northern cities with coastal cities.
Chicago and Cleveland are coastal cities .That's is a delusional statement. Im sorry but the great lakes are not a ocean. Philly and Houston are coastal cities imo because both cities are located on saltwater rivers that directly connect them to the ocean within 30 miles. Coastal does not necessarily mean located on a beach imo.
Houston is directly on the gulf, not on the salt water River like Philly.
Houston is directly on the gulf, not on the salt water River like Philly.
The DT of Houston is exactly the same distance from the Ocean and Bay/Gulf as is the DT of Philly. Both cities have a majority of the population away from the shore.
If you are talking metro both have significant shoreline on large salt water bodies of water.
The DT of Houston is exactly the same distance from the Ocean and Bay/Gulf as is the DT of Philly. Both cities have a majority of the population away from the shore.
If you are talking metro both have significant shoreline on large salt water bodies of water.
I don't think Houston gives you the coastal feel surrounded by water like SF, Boston, Seattle, Miami though. You can't go walk down to the docks or go throw a party in your boat downtown.
DT LA isn't near the water either. But LA and SoCal in general have a relatively beachy, coastal feel.
Great lakes cities are coastal in a sense...the great lakes are huge bodies of water, have shipping, beaches, have canals/rivers connecting them to the ocean, etc. They're basically little fresh water oceans with tiny waves. A city like Chicago or Cleveland is definitely coastal, IMO, or at least they get an honorable mention...it's just a different kind of coast.
I have a hard time saying a place like Philly or Houston is Coastal though. Near the coast? Yes. Large seaports? Yes. But not coastal...those are river cities (though Houston is closer to being coastal than Philly, with outskirts right by Galveston Bay). "Coastal" is when you can actually see the ocean and the horizon from the city, hear the waves crashing, hear fog horns, smell the salt air, when your city has a large fishing industry, and when you can get to the ocean in well less than an hour--preferably while staying within the city limits.
You can do all that in Houston. Houston not being seen as a coastal city is ludicrous. They grow tones of palm trees for goodness sake. There are parts of Houston that look like Florida.
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.That's is a delusional statement. Im sorry but the great lakes are not a ocean. Philly and Houston are coastal cities imo because both cities are located on saltwater rivers that directly connect them to the ocean within 30 miles. Coastal does not necessarily mean located on a beach imo.
