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Missouri is definitely a good choice...so is it's neighbor, Illinois. Kansas City, St. Louis, and Chicago really are not like their states at all...the urban culture and rural culture contrast sharply.
See, but I feel Missouri is split between St. Louis and Kansas City, and even those two urban centers aren't all that similar, which is why I thought MO was a bad choice to illustrate a state dominate by basically one urban metro.
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See, but I feel Missouri is split between St. Louis and Kansas City, and even those two urban centers aren't all that similar, which is why I thought MO was a bad choice to illustrate a state dominate by basically one urban metro.
That couldn't be further from the truth. The rest of Missouri really doesn't lean toward either city. It very much has a separate identity. Same thing with Illinois vs. the rest of Chicago. In fact, Illinois has 3 separate identities...Northern Illinois, which is influenced by Chicago, Central Illinois, which doesn't identify with either Chicago or St. Louis, and Southern Illinois, which identifies with St. Louis, and as you go either further south or further east, Indiana and Kentucky.
That couldn't be further from the truth. The rest of Missouri really doesn't lean toward either city. It very much has a separate identity. Same thing with Illinois vs. the rest of Chicago. In fact, Illinois has 3 separate identities...Northern Illinois, which is influenced by Chicago, Central Illinois, which doesn't identify with either Chicago or St. Louis, and Southern Illinois, which identifies with St. Louis, and as you go either further south or further east, Indiana and Kentucky.
Wait...MO being a bad choice to illustrate a state dominated by basically one urban metro isn't further from the truth? I'm confused. I don't think you quite understood what I had posted.
State population density is another example of where people overemphasize the importance of states, it is city that drives population density and not states. The average population density even of the most populous state (New Jersey) is about on par with an exurban subdivision with McMansions.
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Wait...MO being a bad choice to illustrate a state dominated by basically one urban metro isn't further from the truth? I'm confused. I don't think you quite understood what I had posted.
I'm simply just trying to say that Missouri is a prime example of a state where people identify more with the major urbans metro area they happen to be living in than with the rest of the state. Chicago is the same way...people living in Chicago don't identify with the rest of Illinois. People living in Cleveland don't identify with the rest of Ohio, etc.
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City. I also find it interesting that a lot of people, especially out west, emphasize counties as well. Here, the majority of people don't even know what county they live in. I am pretty sure less than 25% of adult New Yorkers can name the 5 counties of the city.
I highly doubt that. The five boroughs? New York Co. (Manhattan), the Bronx, Kings (Brooklyn), Queens and Richmond (Staten Island).
Depends who I am talking to for instance someone in the Chicago area can identify with the SW Burbs.
Someone outside the Chicago area can not do that as easily so I usually say I am from the Chicago Metro.
I can also tell someone I am from Illinois and then they will automatically think Chicago.
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