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Old 11-05-2011, 07:49 AM
 
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Our traditional Daylight Savings Time Ends tonight across the U.S. & Canada - which means that clocks are turned back an hour at 2 AM on Sunday.

This means that it gets dark an hour earlier, but it gets lighter an hour earlier in the morning. This is good for those who wake up early in the morning, going to school/work or whatsoever.

Most people seem to dislike changing the clocks twice a year, but they do not understand what the really point is.

For example:

If we did not change clocks at all, the sunset in NYC would be 7.32 PM instead of 8.32 PM in June 21. Why would anyone want it to be dark at 7.32 PM, that's way to early for summer. We don't need the sun to rise an hour earlier, since I don't think anyone would wake up at 4 AM anyway.

In December 21, sunset would have been 5.32 PM instead of 4.32 PM.
Well, that's good news for those who do not wake up early; if we did not change clocks the sun would rise at around 8.20 AM instead. Most of us don't want to wake up in the dark.

BTW I'll rather have it dark an hour earlier in winter because we want to enjoy longer Christmas lights in December

Another Example:

Most of Arizona do not change clocks.
In Phoenix, the sunset at 7.40 PM in June 21 - if they changed time like elsewhere in the U.S. the sunset would have been 8.40 PM - doesn't it sound better if they changed time too to enjoy longer daylight?!

It's good that since 2007 they extended the daylight savings in the U.S. and Canada by 4 more weeks.
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Old 11-05-2011, 07:58 AM
 
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I suppose it'll be better being able to drive to work in the morning without it being dark. It hasn't been getting daylight here in the Atlanta area till about 7:55 or 8:00.
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Old 11-05-2011, 08:16 AM
 
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Yay! Now there will be a little light when I take the dogs out in the morning!
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Old 11-05-2011, 08:18 AM
 
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I suppose it'll be better being able to drive to work in the morning without it being dark. It hasn't been getting daylight here in the Atlanta area till about 7:55 or 8:00.
You're right.

That means tomorrow sun will rise at 7.00 AM and set at 5.41 PM (Instead of 8.00 AM - 6.41 PM).... see how great this is changing time!

By December you'll enjoy Christmas lights longer, and be able to drive in daylight in the morning instead of darkness
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Old 11-05-2011, 01:15 PM
 
Location: Austin, TX
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Most of us don't want to wake up in the dark.

I love to wake up in the dark and enjoy the sunrise!

Another Example:

Most of Arizona do not change clocks.
In Phoenix, the sunset at 7.40 PM in June 21 - if they changed time like elsewhere in the U.S. the sunset would have been 8.40 PM - doesn't it sound better if they changed time too to enjoy longer daylight?!
In Phoenix, why would you want to have a sunset as late as 8.40? It's hot as hell late into the evening, and delaying sunset is only going to make people unable to walk outside even at 8.00pm.
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Old 11-05-2011, 01:38 PM
 
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In Phoenix, why would you want to have a sunset as late as 8.40? It's hot as hell late into the evening, and delaying sunset is only going to make people unable to walk outside even at 8.00pm.
Because it's summer and that means it should be more daylight and longer evenings. 7.40 PM is way too short. Many Europeans who come to U.S./Canada feel the same way to us, because they have longer daylight in summer.

Just because it's dark in Arizona doesn't mean it's much cooler either.
7.40 PM in Pheonix is still extremely hot. BTW not only in Arizona it's hot or very hot, most other places who observe DST is same way too.
AND Arizona people pay more electricity
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Old 11-06-2011, 09:17 AM
 
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I wish they would put the time at the half hour mark between daylight savings and standard time and leave it that way year-round, rather than have to switch back an forth. The argument against that is that we'd be off a half hour from most of the world, but I really don't think that would be a big deal. I think Newfoundland is on the half-hour, for example.
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Old 11-06-2011, 09:37 AM
 
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Because it's summer and that means it should be more daylight and longer evenings. 7.40 PM is way too short. Many Europeans who come to U.S./Canada feel the same way to us, because they have longer daylight in summer.

Just because it's dark in Arizona doesn't mean it's much cooler either.
7.40 PM in Pheonix is still extremely hot. BTW not only in Arizona it's hot or very hot, most other places who observe DST is same way too.
AND Arizona people pay more electricity
It isn't just about air temperature. Direct Arizona sunlight is blazing hot. Dusk is a much, much better time to be outdoors.

Also, early morning is the coolest time and DST makes that pitch black.

This might be slightly more important than your opinion that summer days should have longer evenings just because that's how things should be.
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:30 PM
 
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It isn't just about air temperature. Direct Arizona sunlight is blazing hot. Dusk is a much, much better time to be outdoors.

Also, early morning is the coolest time and DST makes that pitch black.

This might be slightly more important than your opinion that summer days should have longer evenings just because that's how things should be.
I understand your point now better, but it's hot & humid in Eastern half of the U.S. too - what can we do? That's how summer is.
At least it's a dry heat in AZ.
The point of DST is to save electricity as well, not only extending daylight to spend more outdoors.

BTW it's not end of the world to switch time twice a year for an hour, it's due on a Sunday anyway, which is a non-working day for most people.
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:01 PM
 
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I understand your point now better, but it's hot & humid in Eastern half of the U.S. too - what can we do? That's how summer is.
At least it's a dry heat in AZ.
The point of DST is to save electricity as well, not only extending daylight to spend more outdoors.

BTW it's not end of the world to switch time twice a year for an hour, it's due on a Sunday anyway, which is a non-working day for most people.
It's not clear that DST reduces energy consumption. It may do the opposite.

Reduced lighting use trades off with increased A/C and heating use. This was shown to have a net cost in both monetary and environmental terms in an Indiana study:
http://www2.bren.ucsb.edu/~kotchen/links/DSTpaper.pdf (broken link)
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