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Old 05-03-2016, 11:16 AM
 
Location: Arch City
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We already know that guy is CD's resident expert linguist, demographer, culturalist, etc...
Right, you have no answer to me, so you resort to insults. We already know you have no facts backing your opinions, so I suggest you pipe down until you can come up with maps and studies that back up your findings. As far as I'm concerned, I've got all the evidence, you've just got your opinion. So don't put me down unless you have a better argument. You and Mutiny continue to share this belief that somehow Richmond is Northeastern, speaks the same dialect, has the same cuisine, the same politics, etc. as DC and Baltimore. DC and Baltimore from a modern standpoint have more in common with Philadelphia than Richmond and that's an undeniable fact.
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Old 05-03-2016, 11:55 AM
 
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Right, you have no answer to me, so you resort to insults. We already know you have no facts backing your opinions, so I suggest you pipe down until you can come up with maps and studies that back up your findings. As far as I'm concerned, I've got all the evidence, you've just got your opinion. So don't put me down unless you have a better argument. You and Mutiny continue to share this belief that somehow Richmond is Northeastern, speaks the same dialect, has the same cuisine, the same politics, etc. as DC and Baltimore. DC and Baltimore from a modern standpoint have more in common with Philadelphia than Richmond and that's an undeniable fact.
Excuse me? Where did I ever say that?

If that's the full extent of "similarities" in your mind, then there's really nothing else to say. And none of these cities are truly Northeastern, so you can drop that.
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Old 05-03-2016, 12:54 PM
 
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No YOU can't be serious. Culturally and linguistically it is completely different from those two cities at least from a modern standpoint. Richmond has more in common with Raleigh and Charlotte.
Richmond shares similarities with older south cities that are in the Chesapeake region (DC/Baltimore were considered old south cities back in the days and are a part of this area) which logically makes sense. The cities most similar to Richmond would be Norfolk, DC, and Baltimore. Charlotte and Raleigh are more "new south" than Richmond. Have you ever visited the core areas/neighborhoods of Richmond, Norfolk, DC, Baltimore, Raleigh, and Charlotte?
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Old 05-03-2016, 03:16 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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Excuse me? Where did I ever say that?

If that's the full extent of "similarities" in your mind, then there's really nothing else to say. And none of these cities are truly Northeastern, so you can drop that.
Sorry, I disagree. Baltimore and D.C. satisfy the requirements of being Northeastern from a modern standpoint. They are more Northeastern than they are Southern. Richmond is a purely Southern city.
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Old 05-03-2016, 03:19 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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Richmond shares similarities with older south cities that are in the Chesapeake region (DC/Baltimore were considered old south cities back in the days and are a part of this area) which logically makes sense. The cities most similar to Richmond would be Norfolk, DC, and Baltimore. Charlotte and Raleigh are more "new south" than Richmond. Have you ever visited the core areas/neighborhoods of Richmond, Norfolk, DC, Baltimore, Raleigh, and Charlotte?
Baltimore and Washington are Mid-Atlantic/Northeastern cities from a modern standpoint and should not be grouped in with Richmond under pretty much any context from a modern standpoint. Historically, I agree there are similarities but not from a modern standpoint. Richmond has more in common with Charlotte and Raleigh culturally and linguistically today than Baltimore and DC and that's an undeniable fact.
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Old 05-03-2016, 03:25 PM
 
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Sorry, I disagree. Baltimore and D.C. satisfy the requirements of being Northeastern from a modern standpoint. They are more Northeastern than they are Southern. Richmond is a purely Southern city.
Oh, and you've made a just maaarvelous effort to prove it !
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Old 05-03-2016, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Arch City
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Oh, and you've made a just maaarvelous effort to prove it !
There isn't enough proof in the world to satisfy you so don't bother telling me I have to prove it. I already have.
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Old 05-03-2016, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Washington D.C. By way of Texas
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The Southern most suburb of NOVA is only 45 minutes away from Richmond. There is bound to be some similarities between the two areas. Some areas look purely Southern and some look Mid-Atlantic. To say there isn't any similarities between DC/Bmore and Richmond is disingenuous.
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Old 05-03-2016, 06:13 PM
 
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The Southern most suburb of NOVA is only 45 minutes away from Richmond. There is bound to be some similarities between the two areas. Some areas look purely Southern and some look Mid-Atlantic. To say there isn't any similarities between DC/Bmore and Richmond is disingenuous.
Exactly Spade. Reading information can only take you so far....that's why it pays to have personal experience with cities when making a comparison (the poster in question hasn't been to RVA or Philadelphia yet speaks with authority on the matter).
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Old 05-03-2016, 06:31 PM
 
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Seriously, stop posting that outdated ass dialect map from Labov. Do you still drive a Ford Model T? Get with the times and upgrade to Aschmann's American English Dialects map if you gonna spar with posters on this.
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