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[LEFT]WASHINGTON — Affluent black Americans who are leaving industrial cities for the suburbs and the South are shifting traditional lines between rich and poor, according to new census data. Their migration is widening the income gap between whites and the inner-city blacks who remain behind, while making blacks less monolithic as a group and subject to greater income disparities.
"Reverse migration is changing the South and its race relations," said Roderick Harrison, a Howard University sociologist and former chief of racial statistics at the Census Bureau.
He said a rising black middle class is promoting a growing belief among some black conservatives that problems of the disadvantaged are now rooted more in character or cultural problems, rather than race. But Harrison said most black Americans maintain a strong racial identity, focused on redressing perceived lack of opportunities, in part because many of them maintain close ties to siblings or other blacks who are less successful.............
[LEFT]WASHINGTON — Affluent black Americans who are leaving industrial cities for the suburbs and the South are shifting traditional lines between rich and poor, according to new census data. Their migration is widening the income gap between whites and the inner-city blacks who remain behind, while making blacks less monolithic as a group and subject to greater income disparities.
"Reverse migration is changing the South and its race relations," said Roderick Harrison, a Howard University sociologist and former chief of racial statistics at the Census Bureau.
He said a rising black middle class is promoting a growing belief among some black conservatives that problems of the disadvantaged are now rooted more in character or cultural problems, rather than race. But Harrison said most black Americans maintain a strong racial identity, focused on redressing perceived lack of opportunities, in part because many of them maintain close ties to siblings or other blacks who are less successful.............
What growing belief among black conservatives this is old southern strategy black republican views. They didn't discover anything to attach there theories to, but rather just attach it to something then claims something vague. Reading that article I also notice a conservative bias tone and talking refer to things associate with Democrat beliefs. Blacks are generally focus on issues like schools, housing and public safety anyways, But a lot of republicans views often regarding those issues commonly bring civil rights issue into play as a consequence. Most Blacks are actually by many issues Conservative but conservates and republicans views on race or cultural diversity push black back to the Dems,
Democrats in general focused on issues involving lack of opportunities, in help those in the lower and middle class, or less successful. That part has noting to do with race, that's more of a democrat or liberal principle
Most blacks upper, middle, and lower class are democrats, so those "black Conservative" if mean by black republicans? do not represented the major of blacks Americans views especially political. It's not blacks that are moving to upward mobility or upper class are radically culturally different than blacks that are middle or lower. So this is wishful thinking for black republicans that's upper class blacks or blacks that are moving down south will become republican or something. In fact most southern large metro are becoming more democrat.
There were a lot blacks that move up north during the great migration but most blacks have always been in the south. Just as much blacks that are moving from up north to the south, are blacks moving from rural southern areas to urban southern areas. The major of Blacks down south vote democrat even without the northern black transplants.
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The headline appears to be a bit misleading, based on the actual content of the article.
Firstly, I'd say there never really was a huge critical mass of affluent (however that's defined) Blacks in the city proper. However, there were a good bit of solidly middle class predominantly Black neighborhoods in central cities, but those have been on the decline for a while now unfortunately. Most predominantly Black affluent neighborhoods were established IN the suburbs. Affluent Blacks in central cities tend to be dispersed among racially diverse or predominantly White neighborhoods.
One thing that got me is the part where Frey said that those other things like schools, public safety and housing will become more important than Civil Rights issue. Actually, those things have always been important issues in the Black community and have been connected to Civil Rights in many instances.
I agree that center cities had mostly Black neighborhoods that were solidly middle to upper middle class.
One thing that got me is the part where Frey said that those other things like schools, public safety and housing will become more important than Civil Rights issue. Actually, those things have always been important issues in the Black community and have been connected to Civil Rights in many instances.
Very true. As a matter of fact, these things formed the very basis of the CRM--equal access to jobs, housing, schools, etc.
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I agree that center cities had mostly Black neighborhoods that were solidly middle to upper middle class.
Yep, but none that I would really call "affluent." When we look at what are deemed to be the predominantly White affluent neighborhoods in different cities across the nation, they don't have any Black counterparts. There are a few reasons for this, with one of them being the historical solidarity of the Black community across socioeconomic lines, and those lines weren't heavy to begin with as the vast majority of us lived on one side of it (lower middle to middle class). Secondly, these neighborhoods weren't historically allowed to thrive over the long run in central cities. Whatever wasn't taken out due to mob violence (e.g., Rosewood, Greenwood district in Tulsa, etc.) was taken out by urban renewal and riots connected to civil unrest. So being that Blacks have truly only been able to become affluent in large numbers within the past 3-4 decades when suburbanization was in full swing, the most prominent affluent Black neighborhoods were established in the suburbs--parts of Dekalb County, GA, Baldwin Hills in LA (part of the actual city of LA, but pretty much suburban in terms of location and such), Mitchellville, MD in the DC area, etc.
I'm not saying this article doesn't have a point, but it seems like it could have been written in the 70's or something.
[LEFT]WASHINGTON — Affluent black Americans who are leaving industrial cities for the suburbs and the South are shifting traditional lines between rich and poor, according to new census data. Their migration is widening the income gap between whites and the inner-city blacks who remain behind, while making blacks less monolithic as a group and subject to greater income disparities.
"Reverse migration is changing the South and its race relations," said Roderick Harrison, a Howard University sociologist and former chief of racial statistics at the Census Bureau.
He said a rising black middle class is promoting a growing belief among some black conservatives that problems of the disadvantaged are now rooted more in character or cultural problems, rather than race. But Harrison said most black Americans maintain a strong racial identity, focused on redressing perceived lack of opportunities, in part because many of them maintain close ties to siblings or other blacks who are less successful.............
I don't see what's wrong with this. If you have the money for something better than why continue to live in an environment of poverty, crime, bad influences and poor schools?
And as another poster mentioned, most of the suburbs of the older cities have decent populations of middle class black people. Some cities (especially in the northeast and west) even have middle class and upper middle class communities where blacks make up the majority so the 'black community' is still in-tact there.
I don't see what's wrong with this. If you have the money for something better than why continue to live in an environment of poverty, crime, bad influences and poor schools?
But affluent Black Americans who live in central cities by and large don't live in predominantly Black neighborhoods with high poverty rates. They're much more likely to live in more diverse and predominantly White neighborhoods with others of similar income levels.
I agree that affluent needs to be defined, because some may say that these neighborhoods are examples of what they are talking about: http://www.sherwoodforestdetroit.org/
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