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and is Detroit not a Great Lakes city because it doesn't directly touch Lake Erie or Huron?
The Great Lakes is a region and is not synonymous with Coastal.
Coastal means it's on the coast. If it's 90 minutes to an actual coastline and none of the city touches the coastline, it's not coastal. How is that hard to understand?
I-15 has no services in Arizona. No gas, no lodging, no food. (though the food argument is unclear). Of course, it only traverses about 29 miles in the state. Yet, it was the most expensive part of the Interstate system when constructed in the 70's in the Virgin River Canyon. Would this route be constructed today? Probably not.
The Great Lakes is a region and is not synonymous with Coastal.
Coastal means it's on the coast. If it's 90 minutes to an actual coastline and none of the city touches the coastline, it's not coastal. How is that hard to understand?
The word "coastal" is rather fluid. The original post was concerning the minor league baseball association named the Pacific Coast League. It originally was considered a strong contender for major league status as there were no major league teams west of St. Louis until the Giants and Dodgers relocated to California in the 50s. At that point the PCL became a AAA minor league.
The reason teams like Nashville are in the PCL is the American Association shut down a couple of decades or so ago and the PCL absorbed several of those teams primarily in the central part of the country. The International League is the other AAA minor league, historically was teams in the eastern part of the country and got its name because it had teams in Canada and for a while in the 50s a team in Havana. Today its name is a geographical oddity as all of its teams are in the US.
Another use of the word in the sporting world is the Atlantic Coast Conference of the NCAA. It broke off the Southern Conference with teams in the Carolinas, Virginia and Maryland. None of those schools was in a city with a beach. But all were in states on the Atlantic Coast. Expansion has two schools that could now be considered coastal by your narrow definition... Miami and Boston College, but expansion also has added schools in landlocked areas like Kentucky (Louisville) and Indiana (Notre Dame... for non football sports).
The terms East Coast and West Coast refer to states that border oceans. So sum it up, the terms "coast" or "coastal" have a broader meaning than just an area at the beach.
The word "coastal" is rather fluid. The original post was concerning the minor league baseball association named the Pacific Coast League. It originally was considered a strong contender for major league status as there were no major league teams west of St. Louis until the Giants and Dodgers relocated to California in the 50s. At that point the PCL became a AAA minor league.
The reason teams like Nashville are in the PCL is the American Association shut down a couple of decades or so ago and the PCL absorbed several of those teams primarily in the central part of the country. The International League is the other AAA minor league, historically was teams in the eastern part of the country and got its name because it had teams in Canada and for a while in the 50s a team in Havana. Today its name is a geographical oddity as all of its teams are in the US.
Another use of the word in the sporting world is the Atlantic Coast Conference of the NCAA. It broke off the Southern Conference with teams in the Carolinas, Virginia and Maryland. None of those schools was in a city with a beach. But all were in states on the Atlantic Coast. Expansion has two schools that could now be considered coastal by your narrow definition... Miami and Boston College, but expansion also has added schools in landlocked areas like Kentucky (Louisville) and Indiana (Notre Dame... for non football sports).
The terms East Coast and West Coast refer to states that border oceans. So sum it up, the terms "coast" or "coastal" have a broader meaning than just an area at the beach.
I get it, and since WA borders the Coast, the term makes sense.
Now on a similar subject to those who mistakenly believe so...
Know what isn't coastal? Pennsylvania. Being on a river that eventually takes you to the ocean is no more coastal than West Virginia or Arkansas being coastal because of the Potomac / Mississippi.
I get it, and since WA borders the Coast, the term makes sense.
Now on a similar subject to those who mistakenly believe so...
Know what isn't coastal? Pennsylvania. Being on a river that eventually takes you to the ocean is no more coastal than West Virginia or Arkansas being coastal because of the Potomac / Mississippi.
Well, again, that is debatable. The lower reaches of the Delaware River are tidal, so there is a direct connection with the Atlantic. An estuary's boundaries are defined up river to the point or its tidal reach, so not only is Philadelphia connected to Delaware Bay in this definition, Trenton, NJ even further upstream is as well.
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I-15 has no services in Arizona. No gas, no lodging, no food. (though the food argument is unclear). Of course, it only traverses about 29 miles in the state. Yet, it was the most expensive part of the Interstate system when constructed in the 70's in the Virgin River Canyon. Would this route be constructed today? Probably not.
LOL, well there is a U-Haul rental place here. Does this count?
Well, again, that is debatable. The lower reaches of the Delaware River are tidal, so there is a direct connection with the Atlantic. An estuary's boundaries are defined up river to the point or its tidal reach, so not only is Philadelphia connected to Delaware Bay in this definition, Trenton, NJ even further upstream is as well.
Yeah, there's also a direct connection to the Gulf of Mexico from the Mississippi as there is a direct connection from the Potomac to the Atlantic. So again, these states I listed must be coastal, too.
Yeah, there's also a direct connection to the Gulf of Mexico from the Mississippi as there is a direct connection from the Potomac to the Atlantic. So again, these states I listed must be coastal, too.
Heck, Albany, NY is a coastal city by your logic.
PA or Philly is not truly but has some technicalities. One the salt line does cross the PA border, actually reaches Philly during certain tides.
It also receives ocean faring vessels (Albany or much past NOLA on the MS river I believe do not truly)
it is pretty close to the bay and the ocean but does not touch the metro area does though and the city DT is about the same distance as Houston in this sense
PA or Philly is not truly but has some technicalities. One the salt line does cross the PA border, actually reaches Philly during certain tides.
It also receives ocean faring vessels (Albany or much past NOLA on the MS river I believe do not truly)
it is pretty close to the bay and the ocean but does not touch the metro area does though and the city DT is about the same distance as Houston in this sense
but no Philly is not directly on the ocean
Philly about as coastal as Houston? OK sure we can go with that
I-15 has no services in Arizona. No gas, no lodging, no food. (though the food argument is unclear). Of course, it only traverses about 29 miles in the state. Yet, it was the most expensive part of the Interstate system when constructed in the 70's in the Virgin River Canyon. Would this route be constructed today? Probably not.
This is probably why Interstate 70 will never be extended to California.
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