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Old 02-28-2012, 09:36 AM
 
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I suspect the next 20 years are going to look a lot different for many of these states.
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Surprise, AZ
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I think it might significantly affect Florida's and Arizona's numbers but not Texas, NC or GA.
I would be curious to see the differences between these states when it comes to retirees. I know AZ attracts retirees, but the Phoenix metro is one of the youngest (median age), so it has definitely attracted younger people.
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Old 02-28-2012, 12:36 PM
 
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This is misleading, as it doesn't show migration into states. NY State hasn't lost that many people in terms of population, as it shows an increase in population since 1990. So, there is more to this.

Also, with NY, many people just move to adjacent states. NYC has suburbs in NJ and CT. So, many people just move to those states, along with PA.

Can't forget that many estimates were off for the last decade.

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Old 02-28-2012, 12:40 PM
 
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Old news.

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Old 02-28-2012, 02:19 PM
 
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This is misleading, as it doesn't show migration into states. NY State hasn't lost that many people in terms of population, as it shows an increase in population since 1990. So, there is more to this.

Also, with NY, many people just move to adjacent states. NYC has suburbs in NJ and CT. So, many people just move to those states, along with PA.

Can't forget that many estimates were off for the last decade.
Well, this measure doesn't show population growth (which would be this measure + natural increase [births-deaths] + foreign immigration). It merely measures the aggregate difference between the number of people who migrate out of the state between the number of people who migrate in a state

For a state like California, for example, American born Californians are moving out of the state, but has shown an increase of population because of foreign migration (high) and natural increase (because most of those foreign migrants have a lot of kids)

What this measure does fail to show though, is people who move out of a state then move back into the state. For example, I know plenty of New Yorkers who moved down to Florida then returned.
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Old 03-01-2012, 02:10 PM
 
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What this measure does fail to show though, is people who move out of a state then move back into the state. For example, I know plenty of New Yorkers who moved down to Florida then returned.
This doesn't matter because it shows the total balance between those who come from other states (no matter what their prior arrangement was before) vs. people who leave. Though I agree with the rest of your post.

So it could be that 3 million of those New Yorkers left and came back, but those coming back would be reflected in the domestic inmigration statistics coming from another state, while still losing domestic migrants.
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Old 03-01-2012, 03:42 PM
 
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It's essentially the good old Rust Belt exodus, and guess what ... CA is now a Rust Belt state! A late comer but a Rust Belt state nonetheless. Old antiquated 20th century Fabian POV.
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Old 03-01-2012, 08:23 PM
 
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This doesn't matter because it shows the total balance between those who come from other states (no matter what their prior arrangement was before) vs. people who leave. Though I agree with the rest of your post.

So it could be that 3 million of those New Yorkers left and came back, but those coming back would be reflected in the domestic inmigration statistics coming from another state, while still losing domestic migrants.
NY has never lost people in any census though. So, it isn't like NY State has lost that many people in terms of population since 1990.
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Old 03-01-2012, 10:12 PM
 
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NY has never lost people in any census though. So, it isn't like NY State has lost that many people in terms of population since 1990.
Yeah, but this isn't measuring population growth..for the 1000th time. Here's a definition of DOMESTIC MIGRATION to remind you

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The process of moving within a given country, but across subdividing boundaries, with the intent of establishing a new permanent or semi-permanent residence. In the United States, domestic migration generally refers to movement from one state to another
https://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=dome...w=1366&bih=667

I don't get what you're trying to drive at for the second time in this thread? I think everyone KNOWS that New York didn't lose people. Hell, California since 1990 grew by 8 million people. It's just where American born people are moving to. That's all. Nothing sinister behind it.
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Old 03-02-2012, 02:11 PM
 
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Yeah, but this isn't measuring population growth..for the 1000th time. Here's a definition of DOMESTIC MIGRATION to remind you


https://www.google.com/#hl=en&q=dome...w=1366&bih=667

I don't get what you're trying to drive at for the second time in this thread? I think everyone KNOWS that New York didn't lose people. Hell, California since 1990 grew by 8 million people. It's just where American born people are moving to. That's all. Nothing sinister behind it.
Never said that there was anything sinister behind it. I think people have been over the topic a bunch of times.

Another thing is that the estimates before the 2010 census have been shown to be off in regards to some states and areas. Considering the year that the information goes up to, I'd say that some of the information that you posted is off to some degree.
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