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Old 04-01-2012, 08:22 PM
 
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I can understand why he said that. Today, Scotch-Irish consider themselves as Irish in Northern Ireland because it's been several generations that they're in Ireland. While Scotch-Irish American only stay in Northern Ireland for 3 or 4 generations before they came to America. They were considered as Irish when they came but after the immigration of Irish catholics in the 19th century, they were called Scotch-Irish because people want to separated both.

I don't really know if most Scotch-Irish consider themselves Scottish, Irish or maybe both.
The largest ancestry in the Southern US is probably Scotch-Irish but most of them just call themselves "Irish" or "American." I don't hear "Scotch-Irish" much.

According to city-data, the largest reported ancestry in my hometown is "Irish" It's even ahead of "American." "Scotch-Irish" on the other hand isn't even on there.
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:34 PM
 
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To me when I think of Irish, I think of Catholicism and if a person or that person's ancestors were not Catholic, then they are not really Irish. All those Scotch-Irish people are usually Protestants, so they are not really Irish. That is why there is that Scotch part attached to Irish. So if someone calls themselves an Irish American, then they and/or their ancestors should be Catholic.
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:38 PM
 
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San Francisco used to be massively Irish up until the 1960s. Its down to about 8 or 9% now. White flight/suburbanization kind of dispersed them throughout the Bay Area. Still, its a pretty heavily Irish region. I would guess they're still the largest white group in the Bay Area.
As for whites, after the Italians, then? Actually, in some restaurants in SF, some of the men and women waiting tables have been from Ireland. I asked if many others were coming over, and they said that they were. Way out on Sloat (near the Zoo) where it meets the Great Highway, there is an Irish neighborhood and some kind of a cultural/social center.
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Old 04-01-2012, 08:41 PM
 
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My grandmother was Presbyterian and part Scotch-Irish American and she identified a lot more with Scottish Protestants than Irish Catholics.
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Old 04-01-2012, 09:18 PM
 
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I would have thought New York.

That was the case at once point (they used to heavily control the government there).

I guess New York has a more prominent Italian population now.
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Old 04-02-2012, 02:59 PM
 
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A lot of Irish and Irish Americans are just culturally Catholic now, only going to Mass when they're "hatched, matched, and dispatched", in the words of an Irish-American priest I once knew from Brooklyn.
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Old 04-02-2012, 04:36 PM
 
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A lot of Irish and Irish Americans are just culturally Catholic now, only going to Mass when they're "hatched, matched, and dispatched", in the words of an Irish-American priest I once knew from Brooklyn.
I dont think that is just Irish Catholics that do this.
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Old 04-03-2012, 07:13 AM
 
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The largest ancestry in the Southern US is probably Scotch-Irish but most of them just call themselves "Irish" or "American." I don't hear "Scotch-Irish" much.
Actually the demographers say the largest ancestry in the south is English. Historically English American are the top ancestry in almost every southern states. Scotch-Irish is the largest ancestry in Arkansas, West Virginia and maybe Oklahoma. They must dominate the entire Appalachian and Ozark region but all the southern states aren't in this region.

You can check here

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Old 04-03-2012, 09:35 AM
 
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Actually the demographers say the largest ancestry in the south is English. Historically English American are the top ancestry in almost every southern states. Scotch-Irish is the largest ancestry in Arkansas, West Virginia and maybe Oklahoma. They must dominate the entire Appalachian and Ozark region but all the southern states aren't in this region.

You can check here
I said probably because a lot of Southerners claim their ancestry as "American" or "Irish" on the census and I'd say that the majority of those people are actually Scotch-Irish. The link says almost 13 million claim Irish. It doesn't say anything about "American" but that's an even more common ancestry that's claimed in the South.
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Old 04-03-2012, 02:41 PM
 
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I'll go with Boston, and the Albany-Schenectady-Troy, NY capital region (remember the movie "Ironweed" ?). Both are very Irish Catholic.
Along with the Syracuse area, I totally agree.
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