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Old 03-27-2012, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Tippecanoe County, Indiana
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Some states have a low COL, but it doesn't mean that they are desirable. I've lived in those places too and I was constantly trying to plan my vacations to escape the area.
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Old 03-27-2012, 03:27 PM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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Backs up what I have tried to tell others from out of region: you can drive from suburban Boston to south of Trenton NJ, and encounter nothing but the highest of prosperous neighborhoods, six figure median income towns, the entire drive. I can't think of any other place nationally where this can be achieved.
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Old 03-27-2012, 05:36 PM
 
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Most of the RTW states have lost jobs and have much higher poverty rates in many cases. Much of it comes down to educational attainment.
Poorer states are more likely to be RTW because they do not want to remain poor so they enact a pro-economic growth policy. Wealthy states have the luxury to drag away part of their economy to be anti-right to work.
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Old 03-27-2012, 07:15 PM
 
Location: The City
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Backs up what I have tried to tell others from out of region: you can drive from suburban Boston to south of Trenton NJ, and encounter nothing but the highest of prosperous neighborhoods, six figure median income towns, the entire drive. I can't think of any other place nationally where this can be achieved.
Actually in looking at the map you can nearly drive through counties all the way to DC

Look at the dark green concentration. I dont think a lot of people realize the wealth concentrated on a large scale in this area

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Old 03-27-2012, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Tippecanoe County, Indiana
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Poorer states are more likely to be RTW because they do not want to remain poor so they enact a pro-economic growth policy. Wealthy states have the luxury to drag away part of their economy to be anti-right to work.
No, highly educated states are more likely to have a higher percentage of the population that is entreprenurial, self employed, and high earning. This leads to good ancillary economic benefits for the entire population.
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Old 03-29-2012, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Some states have a low COL, but it doesn't mean that they are desirable. I've lived in those places too and I was constantly trying to plan my vacations to escape the area.
Yes. regarding RTW states, they can go lower than Federal minimum I believe. Thats good for 18-25 year olds to know bcs employers will pay rock-bottom wages with zero benefits.

In Tennessee,Lowes for the past year (a fortune 500 company) now hires ONLY part-timers, under 30 hrs per week, (no health benefits or 401 k's).

Anyone relocating to a new state in this economy is very wise to look at all these stats regardless of age. No one wants to work for 7.00 an hour in this economy.

Retirement is a different issue, I'd like to hear from working people (ages 20-40) who still have to work.

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Old 03-29-2012, 03:46 PM
 
Location: 32°19'03.7"N 106°43'55.9"W
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Actually in looking at the map you can nearly drive through counties all the way to DC

Look at the dark green concentration. I dont think a lot of people realize the wealth concentrated on a large scale in this area
The opposite effect of this, of course, would be to drive from the Okefenokee Swamp in southern Georgia up into Southeast Missouri. In such a drive, you can entirely stay within quintile of median incomes per county. Such a drive, to me anyways, would be more fascinating than a drive from Suburban Boston to D.C., for an incredible blend of physical and cultural geography.
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Old 03-29-2012, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Driving through S. Florida (then west through panhandle, Mobile , AL and Biloxi, MS. to New Orleans) up to Baton Rouge you would see the same demographic.

Not very much infrastructure.
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Old 03-29-2012, 04:28 PM
 
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When a state doesn't have any minimum wage laws does that mean a employer can pay a worker like $4.00 an hour?
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Old 03-29-2012, 04:55 PM
 
Location: Old Town Alexandria
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Apparently, from what the dept of labor site notes about right to work states. Waitressing is one of those type jobs.

In East Tenn gas stations pay some cashiers 6.00 an hour with no benefits since its all part -time. many of these people are over age 40 too, due to a depressed job market. Low COL doesn't necessarily equal quality of life.
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